[comp.sys.apple2] SCSI Part

lhaider@pro-beagle.cts.com (Laer Haider) (08/23/90)

There has been quite a bit of people e-mailing me about the SCSI.PART program
I commented about on the net a couple of days ago... so I BINSCII'd it and am
posting it to the net.  In case you didn't catch my post, it's a freeware
patch to GS/OS and P8 so that Prodos8 will recognize more than 2 partitions on
your SCSI hard drive.  It does this by remapping slots and drives in the IIgs
so that it looks to the machine like you have all these drives stuck in every
available slot your IIgs has.  I would assume it wouldn't work on more than
half a dozen or so partitions, the IIe (which prodos8 thinks it's working in)
can't support more than 2 drives per slot.  So...  without further delay
SCSI.PART!

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scottr@gnh-applesauce.cts.com (Scott Rothstein) (11/13/90)

Odd -- I installed 5.0.3 on my HD, and suddenly SCSI.Part wasn't there. "Ok," I
thought, "it just erased the file and replaced it with an update, or found it
nonstandard (patched) and updated it." So I ran SCSI.Part.Install, and patched
P8 and Start.GS.OS
Didn't work. Booted Proterm, and it crashed. Tried other P8 programs, and it
crashed. Had to replace P8 and Start.GS.OS and it worked, unpatched.
I know that SCSI.Part patches P8 to read more partitions, and then patches
Start.GS.OS to allow the greater file length that P8 now has without giving an
error.
Any Ideas? I really need access to my other two partition from P8.


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rankins@argentina (raymond r rankins) (11/13/90)

In article <m0iYaSs-0001anC@jartel.info.com>, scottr@gnh-applesauce (Scott Rothstein) writes:
>
>Odd -- I installed 5.0.3 on my HD, and suddenly SCSI.Part wasn't there. "Ok," I
>thought, "it just erased the file and replaced it with an update, or found it
>nonstandard (patched) and updated it." So I ran SCSI.Part.Install, and patched
>P8 and Start.GS.OS
>Didn't work. Booted Proterm, and it crashed. Tried other P8 programs, and it
>crashed. Had to replace P8 and Start.GS.OS and it worked, unpatched.
>I know that SCSI.Part patches P8 to read more partitions, and then patches
>Start.GS.OS to allow the greater file length that P8 now has without giving an
>error.
>Any Ideas? I really need access to my other two partition from P8.
>

System disk 5.0.3 comes with a new version of P8, version 1.9.
SCSI.Part was for P8 version 1.8.  The installer replaced all your P8
1.8 with P8 1.9.  I don't know if there were any changes to
Start.GS.OS.

I realized about 75% of the way through installing 5.0.3 that I was
going to lose SCSI.Part.  I tried to install SCSI.Part on P8 1.9, but
it crashes horribly when I try to run any P8 programs.  Apparently,
the location in P8 where it used to patch into has been changed in the
recent version.  I believe it patched itself onto the end of P8.  I do
know that P8 1.9 is bigger than P8 1.8, so that's probably the
problem.  SCSI.Part is probably installing over part of P8 or
something like that.  The patch to Start.GS.OS was so that it would
ignore the new size of P8 with SCSI.Part installed.  (Apparently as a
way to insure that a compatible version of P8 was being used (at least
a non-patched/virus free one), Start.GS.OS checked the size of P8
against a constant value.  If it was larger than that, it would report
an error.  I think all version of P8 prior to P8 1.9 were always the
same size.)

Anyway, tonight I'm going to play around and see if Start.GS.OS has
changed between 5.0.2 and 5.0.3, and also see if I can put P8 1.8 back
on my system 5.0.3 drive and get SCSI.Part back.  I'll report my
findings.

Ray


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rankins@argentina (raymond r rankins) (11/13/90)

In article <13672@crdgw1.crd.ge.com>, rankins@argentina (That's me) writes:
>
>Anyway, tonight I'm going to play around and see if Start.GS.OS has
>changed between 5.0.2 and 5.0.3, and also see if I can put P8 1.8 back
>on my system 5.0.3 drive and get SCSI.Part back.  I'll report my
>findings.
>

Well, I tried it and it seemed to work.  Although the Start.GS.OS on
5.0.3 was of a newer date than on 5.0.2, they were still exactly the
same size, so I assumed they weren't too different from each other.  I
left the system 5.0.3 Start.GS.OS on the drive, and I replaced P8 v
1.9 with P8 v1.8 and reinstalled SCSI.PART, and so far it seems to be
working okay.  I've got all my partitions back under prodos 8.
Hopefully, the author of SCSI.PART will modify it soon so that it works
with P8 v 1.9.

BTW - what are the changes to P8 besides the addition of the new
Mini-Finder quit code?  Anything I should be real concerned with like
an important bug fix?   I prefer to have the latest versions of software
installed, but right now SCSI.PART is more valuable to me than a 
newer version of Prodos 8.

Ray


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lhaider@pro-grouch.cts.com (Laer Haider) (11/16/90)

In-Reply-To: message from scottr@gnh-applesauce.cts.com

[snip...]
>Didn't work. Booted Proterm, and it crashed. Tried other P8 programs, and it
>crashed. Had to replace P8 and Start.GS.OS and it worked, unpatched.
>I know that SCSI.Part patches P8 to read more partitions, and then patches
>Start.GS.OS to allow the greater file length that P8 now has without giving
an
>error.
>Any Ideas? I really need access to my other two partition from P8.

Me thinks SCSI.Part needs an update for System 5.0.3.  I was hoping Apple
would put such a feature into this release of the system software, but we all
know what happens when we hope at Apple...

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johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz (John MacLean) (11/20/90)

>System disk 5.0.3 comes with a new version of P8, version 1.9.
>SCSI.Part was for P8 version 1.8.  The installer replaced all your P8
>1.8 with P8 1.9.  I don't know if there were any changes to
>Start.GS.OS.
>
>Ray

There is already a new version of SCSI.Part around (2.1? - I cannot
remember) that works with P8 1.9.
Hopefully it has been fixed so that it will work unchanged
with future releases of the OS.
John MacLean.

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jamesp@pro-sol.cts.com (James Pangrazzi) (11/20/90)

In-Reply-To: message from lhaider@pro-grouch.cts.com

System Tools, Version 5.03 has a universal driver that will take care of the
problem your talking about. Meaning, this driver will handle the old and the
new scsi card. Im assuming that you know how to put it on your system disk so
I won't mention that.

lhaider@pro-grouch.cts.com (Laer Haider) (11/23/90)

In-Reply-To: message from johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz

>There is already a new version of SCSI.Part around (2.1? - I cannot
>remember) that works with P8 1.9.
>Hopefully it has been fixed so that it will work unchanged
>with future releases of the OS.
>John MacLean.

Can you binscii it and post here?  I'm sure there are hundreds of us waiting
with baited breath.
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kreme@isis.cs.du.edu (Something Completely Different) (11/25/90)

In article <530@fawlty.towers.oz> johnmac@fawlty.ips.oz (John MacLean) writes:
>There is already a new version of SCSI.Part around (2.1? - I cannot
>remember) that works with P8 1.9.

Any chance of this being posted to cba2??





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johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz (John MacLean) (12/03/90)

In article <1990Nov25.084053.19553@isis.cs.du.edu> kreme@isis.UUCP (Something Completely Different) writes:
>In article <530@fawlty.towers.oz> johnmac@fawlty.ips.oz (John MacLean) writes:
>>There is already a new version of SCSI.Part around (2.1? - I cannot
>>remember) that works with P8 1.9.
>
>Any chance of this being posted to cba2??

I would if I had a modem on my GS - sorry.
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penguin@gnh-igloo.cts.com (Mark Steiger) (12/05/90)

This has nothing to do with the previous discussion on scsi part, but what the
hey...

  I am looking for something like SCSI part that I can boot from my floppy in
slot 5 without having boot the HD first, and have it partition the HD out to
the different slots.  SCSI part maps them out as the HD boots.  Won't work from
disk boot.

Thanks in advance

Mark

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Joe_Luzzi.FULLERTON_CC@QMBRIDGE.CALSTATE.EDU (Joe Luzzi) (12/19/90)

                                                               Time: 3:14 PM
                                                               Date: 12/10/90
Subject:  SCSI Part


Maybe I missed it, but I heard there was a new version of SCSI-Part for prodos
v 1.9.  IS this true, and if so, where can I can get a copy?

Thanks.


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penguin@gnh-igloo.cts.com (Mark Steiger) (01/06/91)

I can't get SCSI part v. 1.20 to work with System 5.0.4.  Is there a newer
version available from somewhere that'll work?

Thanks.

mark Steiger

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tsouth@techbook.com (Todd South) (01/07/91)

In article <m0isU1T-0000AqC@jartel.info.com> penguin@gnh-igloo.cts.com 
(Mark Steiger) writes:
>I can't get SCSI part v. 1.20 to work with System 5.0.4.  Is there a newer
>version available from somewhere that'll work?
>
>Thanks.
>
>mark Steiger
>
>[  Mark Steiger, Sysop, The Igloo BBS  218/262-3142  300-19.2K Baud     ]
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Also, for the record:

Would SOMEONE please pass along the author's name of SCSI.PART!  I would
sincerely like to contact him/her directly.

Thanks!

Todd South

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penguin@gnh-igloo.cts.com (Mark Steiger) (01/11/91)

Does anyone have a version of SCSI.part greater than 1.20?  If so, please post
it to binaries or mail me a copy binscii'd.

Thanks.

Mark

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jefft@gnh-applesauce.cts.com (Jeff Tarr Jr.) (01/14/91)

The author of SCSI Part is Richard Bennet.  I know that he lives in Australia,
but I don't have his address offhand.

Interms of SCSI Part not working with 5.0.4, that's correct.  Apple moved some
of the ProDOS code in 5.0.4 (and 5.0.3 for that matter) which renders SCSI Part
useless.
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supton@pro-novapple.cts.com (Sam Upton) (01/26/91)

In-Reply-To: message from mvk@itsgw.rpi.edu

Mike - Do you have SCSI Part working with prodos 1.9 ? Has it been 
updated for 1.9 yet ? If so, what version do you have ? This program
pre-empts RAM5, doesn't it ? I have a version, with a 105 Quantum
drive, but haven't tried it out yet, as I've read that SCSI.part
doesn't support 5.0.4 . If you have experience to the contrary, I 
would like to hear about it. I can be reached e-mail at :
 
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tsouth@techbook.com (Todd South) (01/30/91)

Please, any AUSTRALIAN readers!  I don't have the information handy
on the author of SCSI.PART but I understand that he is in Australia.

If anyone down under knows how to reach him would you please ask if
he has updated this program and if he is willing to post it to the
binaries.  Thanks!

Todd South

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gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gregory Ross Thompson) (03/02/91)

  Got a question for all you people using SCSI Part.  For some reason,
about 50% of the time I fire up ProDOS 8, SCSI Part thinks I have 4
partitions on my hard drive instead of 3.  What's the deal?  I've
tried re-installing it several times, and I always get the same
results.  Everything seems to work fine when it does the 4 partition
thing, but it's annoying the hell out of me...

  I like how he made it tell you what kind of drive you have.  Nice
touch.  I assume he's doing one of those smartport status calls, eh?

		-Greg T.
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