yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) (03/06/91)
Has anyone out there had success in uploading large files onto UNIX systems using ymodem batch, zmodem, xmodem using ProTerm? I can upload using Kermit, but when I try to upload anything using the above protoccols, I get an Ack Timeout error in ProTerm. I can download without any problems. Could it have something to do with the terminal settings on the Suns? The terminal is configured in the following way: $ stty -a speed 9600 baud, 24 rows, 80 columns parenb -parodd cs7 -cstopb -hupcl cread clocal -crtscts -ignbrk brkint ignpar -parmrk -inpck istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl -iuclc ixon -ixany -ixoff imaxbel isig iexten icanon -xcase echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -tostop echoctl -echoprt echoke opost -olcuc onlcr -ocrnl -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel erase kill werase rprnt flush lnext susp intr quit stop eof ^? ^U ^W ^R ^O ^V ^Z/^Y ^C ^\ ^S/^Q ^D Are there particular settings to get Zmodem and Ymodem Batch to work properly? It might have something to do with the ROLM system data switch, but the only thing we can change is the parity checking. Any help would be greatly appreciated. _____________________________________________________________________________ |Internet: yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |||||||||||Yong Su Kim|||||||||||| |Bitnet : yk4@cunixc |||||The Korean from Hong Kong|||| |UUCP : uunet!rutgers!columbia!cunixc!yk4 |||||||...Apple IIGS user...|||||| |____________________________________________||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (David H. Huang) (03/06/91)
In article <1991Mar6.053412.22781@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) writes: >Has anyone out there had success in uploading large files onto UNIX >systems using ymodem batch, zmodem, xmodem using ProTerm? > >I can upload using Kermit, but when I try to upload anything using the >above protoccols, I get an Ack Timeout error in ProTerm. I can >download without any problems. I have problems uploading to Unix systems with x,y and zmodem too... Downloading works well, but whenever I upload, some bytes always get scrambled for some inexplicable reason... Maybe the rz program was written for some weird IBM version of Zmodem or something? It's really a pain to have to use slow Kermit for uploading... > _____________________________________________________________________________ >|Internet: yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |||||||||||Yong Su Kim|||||||||||| >|Bitnet : yk4@cunixc |||||The Korean from Hong Kong|||| >|UUCP : uunet!rutgers!columbia!cunixc!yk4 |||||||...Apple IIGS user...|||||| >|____________________________________________|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| -- David Huang | Internet: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | "Slight accidents with funny rays UUCP: ...!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!daveh | can have serious consequences" America Online: DrWho29 |
beh@.mit.edu (Bruce E. Howells) (03/07/91)
In article <1991Mar6.053412.22781@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) writes: >Has anyone out there had success in uploading large files onto UNIX >systems using ymodem batch, zmodem, xmodem using ProTerm? > >I can upload using Kermit, but when I try to upload anything using the >above protoccols, I get an Ack Timeout error in ProTerm. I can >download without any problems. > >Could it have something to do with the terminal settings on the Suns? >The terminal is configured in the following way: >$ stty -a > lots of nasty stty output deleted... Kermit was specifically designed to handle all sorts of adverse communications situations - x/y/zmodem, on the other hand, were designed with other goals in mind. Therefore, it's not suprising that you've found Kermit to be successful, where others are failing. Unfortunately, from there, it's pretty much a local issue. At Boston University, there was a question of which bank of dialups you came in on - one would allow x/y/z, the other wouldn't. Questions to ask the local person-who-knows-their-stuff: Is the dialup path 7 or 8 bits? If you're only getting a 7 bit path (0-127), you're stuck with kermit. Are characters eaten along the way? If you lose some control characters, I believe z allows control-character quoting, but I'm not sure. Cisco boxes get quite upset at control-^, for example. Is my path into the machine 8 bits? telnet usually is, rlogin usually isn't. Not something you usually think of, but when you get down to "how are the bits getting through the wire" - it's stuff you have to know. Hope this helps - if you need more info, email me. Bruce Howells, beh@pogo.ai.mit.edu (formerly beh@bu.edu) ** do not use R or auto-reply unless you like bounce-mail...
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (03/08/91)
>Kermit was specifically designed to handle all sorts of adverse >communications situations - x/y/zmodem, on the other hand, were >designed with other goals in mind. And is slow as molasses! >Is my path into the machine 8 bits? telnet usually is, rlogin usually >isn't. Not something you usually think of, but when you get down to >"how are the bits getting through the wire" - it's stuff you have to >know. You can force rlogin to be an 8 bit connection.. I presume that downloading is one of the reasons this was added, but I'm not sure. As in: rlogin wherever -8 -- <unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu Apple IIGS Forever! CHEAP CD INFO-mail me BETTER .sig?>
greg@hoss.unl.edu (Lig Lury Jr.) (03/10/91)
... beh@.mit.edu (Bruce E. Howells) writes: >... yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) writes: >>Has anyone out there had success in uploading large files onto UNIX >>systems using ymodem batch, zmodem, xmodem using ProTerm? >> >>I can upload using Kermit, but when I try to upload anything using the >>above protoccols, I get an Ack Timeout error in ProTerm. I can >>download without any problems. >Are characters eaten along the way? If you lose some control >characters, I believe z allows control-character quoting, but I'm not >sure. Cisco boxes get quite upset at control-^, for example. Unfortunately, ProTERM's Zmodem apparently does not support control character quoting. This is from my own use of trying to upload several ASCII files. It would send the filename and hang. Switching to non-quoted worked some but not all the time... some files I ended up having to ASCII Send. The boxes here are susceptable to control-S and control-Q as well. Plays havoc with transfers. >Bruce Howells, beh@pogo.ai.mit.edu (formerly beh@bu.edu) > ** do not use R or auto-reply unless you like bounce-mail... Yeah, with an address like beh@.mit.edu, that is to be expected. However, the term "rubber-mail" flows much better, or bounced mail. -- /// ____ \\\ greg@ /"Share and Enjoy." "Share and Enjoy." "Share and | |/ / \ \| | hoss. / Enjoy." "Share and Enjoy." "Share and Enjoy." \\_(\____/)_// unl. /"Share and Enjoy." "Oh this is ridiculous! Let me out \_\\\/ edu / of here!" <humm> "Thank you." "My pleasure!" "ARGH!"