[comp.sys.apple2] ShrinkIt 3.2.1 is corrupted

unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu (The Unknown User) (03/12/91)

	The title basically says it all.. The ShrinkIt 3.2.1 posted to
comp.binaries.apple2 is corrupted. Both the DOX file and the main program
had bad CRCs..

	Trying to unpack the dox file crashed my copy of ShrinkIt 3.2
twice... So after booting into GS/OS (which I had to do anyway), ShrinkIT
GS told me tha the CRC was corrupted.

	Now all I have is a bad copy of ShrinkIT 3.2.1! (Yeah yeah yeah,
maybe it wasn't the greatest idea of unpacking it ONTO my only other
copy of 8 bit ShrinkIt but I don't wanna waste disk space)
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gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gregory Ross Thompson) (03/13/91)

unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu (The Unknown User) writes:
>         The title basically says it all.. The ShrinkIt 3.2.1 posted to
> comp.binaries.apple2 is corrupted. Both the DOX file and the main program
> had bad CRCs..

  Wrong.  The archive is fine.  I just un-shrunk it with no problems
at all.  The only problem with what was posted to comp.binaries is
that the poster cut out the "FiLeStArTfIlEsTaRt" from parts 2, 3, and
5 of the binscii files.  I suppose if you were decoding with something
that doesn't do any error checking, you might have gotten a corrupted
ShrinkIt archive of the files, but I assure you that what was posted
is not damaged.

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scotth@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Henderson) (03/13/91)

In article <QbrG=K200WB9Q9AqNU@andrew.cmu.edu> gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gregory Ross Thompson) writes:
>
>  Wrong.  The archive is fine.  I just un-shrunk it with no problems
>at all.  The only problem with what was posted to comp.binaries is
>that the poster cut out the "FiLeStArTfIlEsTaRt" from parts 2, 3, and
>5 of the binscii files.  I suppose if you were decoding with something
>that doesn't do any error checking, you might have gotten a corrupted
>ShrinkIt archive of the files, but I assure you that what was posted
>is not damaged.
>

Hmm... interesting.  I posted it.  Let me tell youwhat I did so someone
might tell me what I did wrong.  I binsciied the archive and then uploaded
all 5 parts.  I then used the cat command in Unix to concatenate the files
into two groups.  When I look at the concatenated files, they all contain
the FiLeStArTfIlEsTaRts from all 5 parts. (Part 1 had the first 3, Part 2
had the last 2).  However, when I looked at the posted message, the filestarts
were gone.

I remedied the problem by just posting each part separately, but I'd like
to figure out what I messed up so that it won't happen again.

-Scott

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v060q267@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David B Bandish) (03/13/91)

According to Andy Nicholas on GEnie, there is another problem with Shrinkit 
3.2.1.  In setting it up to fix a bug, he deleted the code neccessary to 
UnSqueeze files (such as .BSQ and .QQ files.)  He intends to upload 3.2.2 to 
GEnie in the next few days.

I posted a comment to this effect to comp.binaries.apple2 as well.

w165011@yogi.ucdavis.edu (Telon Mistar) (03/13/91)

For those of you who are having trouble with all this downloading, only
to find Shrinkit (or any other program off the net) is corrupted, and
you just spent X minutes (or heaven forbid, hours!) wasted in
downloading...I'd suggest you try and get sciibin/nulib.

Note, both are in Public Domain or Share/Free-ware.  The source for both
ar readily available in C.  You can compile them (hopefully) on just
about any machine with a 'good' C compiler.

I've found that it helps ALOT to run sciibin on all the things I get off
comp.binaries.apple2 (as well as various anonymous ftp sites).  For one,
it makes the thing smaller (the un-Binscii'd version is usually much
smaller than a Binscii'd version of the same).  I also don't have to
worry about all the stupid Linefeed vs Carrieage Return problems as wel
(although Binscii v1.03 apparently does't really care either way).

It also allows me a chance to use Nulib, to check the integrity of the
ShrinkIt archives...so I don't have to download the whole mss, only to
find out it's no good.  It's also nice that, if the stuff was compressed
in the 'old' format (ie: pre-LZW2) you can unshrinkit with Nulib, so I
can read docuentation/readme on my Unix rather than finally at home.
hence, I can judge if the thing is worth dl'ing to begin with.

I realize some of you are not on systems that can do sciibin/nulib, and
I wish there were some way to fix that. But for thsoe of you who can, you
really ought to think about getting the two.

Hopefully this will lessen the amount of "File XX is no Good, can somone
do another" post.  

Maybe Nulib/Sciibin ought to be placed in teh FAQ as well.

Paul Hirose
ccrovac@yogi.ucdavis.edu

ART100@psuvm.psu.edu (Andy Tefft) (03/14/91)

In article <QbrG=K200WB9Q9AqNU@andrew.cmu.edu>, gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gregory
Ross Thompson) says:
>
>unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu (The Unknown User) writes:
>>         The title basically says it all.. The ShrinkIt 3.2.1 posted to
>> comp.binaries.apple2 is corrupted. Both the DOX file and the main program
>> had bad CRCs..
>
>  Wrong.  The archive is fine.  I just un-shrunk it with no problems
>at all.  The only problem with what was posted to comp.binaries is
>that the poster cut out the "FiLeStArTfIlEsTaRt" from parts 2, 3, and

Sounds to me like unknown just concatenated all the files and
used binscii on them. Binscii would have just skipped past
the parts without headers, resulting in a shrinkit archive with
some great big holes.

Unfortunately binscii does not tell you "you still need to decode
parts ...".

shrinkit@Apple.COM (Andrew Nicholas) (03/14/91)

In article <13322@darkstar.ucsc.edu> unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu (The Unknown User) writes:

>	The title basically says it all.. The ShrinkIt 3.2.1 posted to
>comp.binaries.apple2 is corrupted. Both the DOX file and the main program
>had bad CRCs..

Don't feel so bad -- ShrinkIt 3.2.1 couldn't unpack BQY, SQ, or ACU files.
ShrinkIt v3.2.2 is up on all the major online services.  :-)

andy

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