[comp.sys.apple2] Doing some things with the Ramworks III

Andy Tefft <ART100@psuvm.psu.edu> (03/22/91)

If you noticed my last few posts you may have noticed that I got
a Ramworks III. It was supposed to be 1 meg, but is temporarily
at 768k while I await replacement of one ram chip that was bad.

In playing with it, I find a couple of things that I would
like to be able to do that sound like they are doable, but I can't
seem to make them happen.

First, there is ramdrive to create a ram disk for dos 3.3, and
prodrive to make one for prodos. Is there any way I could just
copy files to the ramdrive, switch to prodos, and have the
files be intact? Not really a necessary function but it would
save me a step.

Second, I would like to split the prodos ram disk into two
drives. I thought I could just create the prodrive, locking out
the 2nd 64k (normal prodos ramdisk space), switch it to a different
drive location, rename it, and then have prodos create its normal
/ram disk. However I can't get this to work. No matter what I do,
I can only get one unique ram disk (even though it may be located
in two different drive locations, say s3d2 and s5d2, it's the same
disk).

Has anyone ever done either of these things?

kjs39186@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kent Squires) (03/22/91)

ART100@psuvm.psu.edu (Andy Tefft) writes:

>First, there is ramdrive to create a ram disk for dos 3.3, and
>prodrive to make one for prodos. Is there any way I could just
>copy files to the ramdrive, switch to prodos, and have the
>files be intact? Not really a necessary function but it would
>save me a step.

I don't think there is a way to create the DOS 3.3 RAM Drive and keep it
intact under ProDOS - if that's what you're talking about.

>Second, I would like to split the prodos ram disk into two
>drives. I thought I could just create the prodrive, locking out
>the 2nd 64k (normal prodos ramdisk space), switch it to a different
>drive location, rename it, and then have prodos create its normal
>/ram disk. However I can't get this to work. No matter what I do,
>I can only get one unique ram disk (even though it may be located
>in two different drive locations, say s3d2 and s5d2, it's the same
>disk).

I really don't think there's a way to partition the ProDrive on RamWorks. You
can change the emulated S and D, but I don't think you can have two of them.

aford@pro-mansion.cts.com (Adam Ford) (03/25/91)

In-Reply-To: message from kjs39186@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

I have created a DOS 3.3 RAM DISK and I have been able to keep it when I
use ProDOS.  When you have it, instead of CTRL-APPLE-RESET, use PR#x.  Also
the IIgs can use 2 ram Disks with out any problem.  ALL Apple II computers
with 128k or more have a RAM DISK in Slot 3, DRive 2.  /RAM/  Then IIgs can
have one with /RAM/ and /RAM5/.

        Adam Ford
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express@pro-grouch.cts.com (Jeff Goodman) (03/25/91)

In-Reply-To: message from ART100@psuvm.psu.edu

Well, if you have the utility disk that you got with Ramworks III you
should be able to do everything you want.

kjs39186@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kent Squires) (03/25/91)

express@pro-grouch.cts.com (Jeff Goodman) writes:

>In-Reply-To: message from ART100@psuvm.psu.edu

>Well, if you have the utility disk that you got with Ramworks III you
>should be able to do everything you want.

Sombebody said that they installed the RAM disk under DOS 3.3, then just PR#'d
into ProDOS and the RAM disk was kept intact.  I tried this on a //e and it
DIDN'T work.

bh1e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brendan Gallagher Hoar) (03/25/91)

I remember somewhere in the docs that you have to tell DOS 3.3 ram
drive driver to lock out the bottom 64k of the Ramworks.  Otherwise
ProDOS will write over the bottom of your DOS 3.3 ramdrive when
creating it's standard /RAM drive.


Brendan G. Hoar                      bh1e+@andrew.cmu.edu
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357 Melwood Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
(412) 621-8278

ART100@psuvm.psu.edu (Andy Tefft) (03/27/91)

In article <1991Mar25.024845.20985@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, kjs39186@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Kent Squires) says:
>
>Sombebody said that they installed the RAM disk under DOS 3.3, then just PR#'d
>into ProDOS and the RAM disk was kept intact.  I tried this on a //e and it
>DIDN'T work.

[followed by:]

From: bh1e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brendan Gallagher Hoar)
Date: 25 Mar 91 03:58:00 GMT

>I remember somewhere in the docs that you have to tell DOS 3.3 ram
>drive driver to lock out the bottom 64k of the Ramworks.  Otherwise
>ProDOS will write over the bottom of your DOS 3.3 ramdrive when
>creating it's standard /RAM drive.

I did this; then started up copy II+ v8.3, and it said s3,d2 was
disconnected.  I re-ran the ramdisk driver, changing it to slot 5,
and again, copy II+ didn't recognize it.

However, when I re-booted dos 3.3, the files on the ramdrive
were intact.

Now while this is all fine and good, what I wanted (and am not so
interested in now) was being able to access a dos 3.3 ramdisk
from prodos. Now, it makes sense that this is not possible,
since the ramdisk driver was a temporary modification to dos 3.3 itself,
which is not included in the copy II+ dos 3.3 routines.

As it turned out, I had to use prodos anyway.

But I am *still* interested in getting two ramdisks at the same
time, if it's possible.  If Prodos 8 does it automatically on the GS,
it should be able to be done on the //e as well.

mranger@pro-odyssey.cts.com (Richard Kissel) (03/28/91)

In-Reply-To: message from aford@pro-mansion.cts.com

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