unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (04/09/91)
In article <15768@smoke.brl.mil> gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes: >In article <steveh.671118091@tasman> steveh@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Steven Howell) writes: >>cad it use DOS 3.3 or UniDOS 3.3. >Why would you want to? Why? So you can put scads and scads of old DOS 3.3 file games on a hard drive instead of having to boot 'em off of a 3.5" disk or even (EGADS!) a 5.25" drive. In my opinion, a larger proportion of those games were incredibly fun and playable for a longer time than most arcade and computer games nowadays. >>can it boot from the drive under dos 3.3 or unidos >I suspect that DOS 3.3 variants would not understand the SCSI hardware. With the DOS 3.3 clones I know of for 3.5" drives, you have to boot into ProDOS but it's simply a matter of running a small system file to get over into DOS 3.3. >>can i create 5.25' allocations and copy protected software to them. >I don't understand this question. You can copy protected software >anyway, but the copy probably wouldn't work. He means, can he copy a disk image of a copy protected program to some sort of a special 143K partition of a hard drive. It ain't possible with current software. You could probably invent some sort of a way to trap all direct calls to the hardware from a program and then read the volume instead of the literal floppy disk. That would be orders of magnitude more work than simply converting the program into DOS 3.3 or ProDOS file(s). It seems many copy protected programs use slight variants of DOS 3.3, and there probably exist slight variants of ProDOS in copy protected programs.. Once again, a call for someone to make Ultima V bootable on 3.5" disks rather than 5.25" disks. (I know that the first disk is a ProDOS disk.. the others aren't).... A file version of Willy Byte and Short Circuit would be fun too! (just trying to think of the good games that haven't been hacked into file versions) -- /unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu Apple IIGS Forever! ULTIMA VI GS -mail me. CDs-mail me\ \ McIntosh Junior: The Power to Crush the Other Kids. /
knauer@cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase) (04/09/91)
In <14258@darkstar.ucsc.edu> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) writes: >In article <15768@smoke.brl.mil> gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes: >>In article <steveh.671118091@tasman> steveh@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Steven Howell) writes: >>>cad it use DOS 3.3 or UniDOS 3.3. >>Why would you want to? > Why? So you can put scads and scads of old DOS 3.3 file games on >a hard drive instead of having to boot 'em off of a 3.5" disk or even (EGADS!) >a 5.25" drive. Another good reason to run DOS3.3 is (good enough for me, anyway): "Because you can." I still get a thrill out of turning off the mouse, putting the CPU in slow mode, and firing up Turbo Pascal or Wordstar under CP/M. Why? Because I can. I haven't seriously used either in 6 or 7 years, but it's neat to show people how the same machine that runs Nucleus and Rastan also boots Intbasic and runs Applevision. And although I suspect I'm not the arcade-game connoisseur that the Unknown User is, I do enjoy occasionally a couple rounds of Bolo or Snake Byte. :) Rob -- Robert C. Knauerhase University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign "I get my exercise acting as Dept. of Computer Science, Gigabit Study Group pallbearer for my friends knauer@cs.uiuc.edu, rck@ces.cwru.edu who exercise..." knauer@scivax.lerc.nasa.gov