[comp.sys.apple2] TWGS & 32k cache

stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) (04/16/91)

	Hmmm, I just got off the phone with an Applied Engineering
representative, and he told me that they had just finished a 32k cache
for the Transwarp GS.

	Basically, it's a new daughter board (the second layer board
on the TWGS), it'll cost $109 (pricey, imho), and it started shipping
friday.

	He made it sound like it could be a do it yourself kit,
because he mentioned popping out the old board, putting in the new
one, and cutting a couple of tracers on the back of the card.  The
only problem with that, is you lose your warranty (my guess).

	He also said it made a bigger difference than running at 10
mhz (which his current card runs at), and he said it made a big
difference, especially for graphics...

just to let you know.

later


Steven Chiang                  Coming Soon:  DreamGrafix  3200 color power  
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
America On_Line:  DWS Steve    Apple IIgs Forever!
#  With a 4 line .sig, which is all my mailer will post!  :P  #

2hnemarrow@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (04/16/91)

In article <1991Apr15.204621.28953@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) writes:

W
Well, I was going to replay to this, but it seems that the "Twilight" screen
blanking utility has decided to remain quite blank.  Has anyone else had this
problem?

Anyhow, I can't see what I'm doing, but I got a card from AE about making my
transwarp "22%" faster with a 32K catche upgradce.  (Kind of like their idea to
make ReadyLink nearly functional for $15.)  It also says "Install it yourself
in just minutes!", so I assume that you can install iut yourself in just
minutesl  (I can't wait to see what this looks like.)  Well, I'm off to Reset
Land...
> 	Hmmm, I just got off the phone with an Applied Engineering
> representative, and he told me that they had just finished a 32k cache
> for the Transwarp GS.
> 
> 	Basically, it's a new daughter board (the second layer board
> on the TWGS), it'll cost $109 (pricey, imho), and it started shipping
> friday.
> 
> 	He made it sound like it could be a do it yourself kit,
> because he mentioned popping out the old board, putting in the new
> one, and cutting a couple of tracers on the back of the card.  The
> only problem with that, is you lose your warranty (my guess).
> 
> 	He also said it made a bigger difference than running at 10
> mhz (which his current card runs at), and he said it made a big
> difference, especially for graphics...
> 
> just to let you know.
> 
> later
> 
> 
> Steven Chiang                  Coming Soon:  DreamGrafix  3200 color power  
> stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
> America On_Line:  DWS Steve    Apple IIgs Forever!
> #  With a 4 line .sig, which is all my mailer will post!  :P  #

gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) (04/18/91)

In article <1991Apr15.175123.29734@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2hnemarrow@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Anyhow, I can't see what I'm doing, but I got a card from AE about making my
>transwarp "22%" faster with a 32K catche upgradce.  (Kind of like their idea to
>make ReadyLink nearly functional for $15.)  It also says "Install it yourself
>in just minutes!", so I assume that you can install iut yourself in just
>minutesl

I just installed mine.  Indeed, it installs in a few minutes, if all
goes well.  The two trace cuts are at well-marked "bow tie" lands that
were clearly intended for this eventuality.  The instructions caution
you to not cut too deeply (apparently it's a multilayer PC board).
The hardest part of the job for me was getting all the pins aligned
and shoved into their sockets without bending anything.  I found that
one long resistor pack on the TWGS needed to be gently urged over a
bit to make room for the components on the piggyback cache card.

Well, it does work, and for some things I can see an improvement.

dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Derek A. Taubert) (04/19/91)

In article <15883@smoke.brl.mil> gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes:
>I just installed mine.  Indeed, it installs in a few minutes, if all
>goes well.  The two trace cuts are at well-marked "bow tie" lands that
>were clearly intended for this eventuality.  The instructions caution
>you to not cut too deeply (apparently it's a multilayer PC board).
>The hardest part of the job for me was getting all the pins aligned
>and shoved into their sockets without bending anything.  I found that
>one long resistor pack on the TWGS needed to be gently urged over a
>bit to make room for the components on the piggyback cache card.
>

This really steams me.  I got in touch with Steven Malechek, even had him
return my phone call, but never got any more info about this.  He told me
more than a month ago that he would have the info to me by the end of the
week.  Can one of you send me the info on the upgrade so I don't have to
attack dial Applied Engineering to get through to the Tech. Line?

Reason for my anger: well, it's a real bitch to have a 17MHz chip in your
hands and not be able to push it all the way because of a small cache.  I
need an adapter for the socket too, but that's another story.

--
+ Derek Taubert --> derek@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu + Author of : GScii+	      +
+		    dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  + and other neat stuff to come +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Access to computers - and anything which might teach you something about    +
+ the way the world works - should be unlimited and total.  Always yield to   +
+ the Hands-On Imperative!						      +

2hnemarrow@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (04/20/91)

In article <1991Apr19.054201.5915@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Derek A. Taubert) writes:

> week.  Can one of you send me the info on the upgrade so I don't have to
> attack dial Applied Engineering to get through to the Tech. Line?
> 
> Reason for my anger: well, it's a real ______ to have a 17MHz chip in your
> hands and not be able to push it all the way because of a small cache.  I
> need an adapter for the socket too, but that's another story.

Here is the exact info on a card I got from Applied Engineering:

Transwarp GS Owners!  Take your GS to new heights with Applied Engineering's 
32K cache upgrade for the TransWarp GS.

 o  32K cache replaces 8K cache.
 o  Increases TransWarp GS speed by 22%
 o  Install it yourself in just minutes!
 o  Requires no soldering.
 o  Designed by Applied Engineering
 o  Available NOW!
 o  32K cache option only $109 retail.

Call Applied Engineering or your dealer today.

AE Applied Engineering
   (214) 241-6060
   9:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Central Time

-- 
 __________________________________ ___________________________________________
                                   | 
  As any politician will tell you, ! 2hnemarrow@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu <- til 5/15
  you can fool all the people some | PPark@volta.ece.ukans.edu <- too slow :-P
  of  the  time,  and  some of the ! Preston Park at Macrocosm BBS 913-841-9446
  people all the time, and usually | * Christopher Robin at Bloom County BBS
  that's enough.   -- Robert Orben !                        313-582-0888 (MI)
 __________________________________|___________________________________________

plucky.duck@pro-midnightex.cts.com (Terry Guelfo) (04/20/91)

In-Reply-To: message from stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu

>I just got off the phone with an Applied Engineering representative...


Gee, how much did that 1-900 call cost you?  <grrrrr....>


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PLine:  plucky.duck@pro-midnightex / tg.exc@pro-harvest| The Toxic Revenger! |
INET:   plucky.duck@pro-midnightex.cts.com             |---------------------|
UUCP:   crash!pro-midnightex!plucky.duck               |  If you have an HP  |
ARPA:   crash!pro-midnightex!plucky.duck@nosc.mil      |  DeskJet for sale,  |
BITNET: plucky.duck%pro-midnightex.cts.com@nosc.mil    |  please e-mail me.  |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) (04/21/91)

In article <8699@crash.cts.com> plucky.duck@pro-midnightex.cts.com (Terry Guelfo) writes:
>In-Reply-To: message from stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
>
>>I just got off the phone with an Applied Engineering representative...
>
>Gee, how much did that 1-900 call cost you?  <grrrrr....>


	Actually, I called via normal long distance...  and talked to
the head of technical support directly... and he mentioned it...


>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>PLine:  plucky.duck@pro-midnightex / tg.exc@pro-harvest| The Toxic Revenger! |




Steven Chiang                  Coming Soon:  DreamGrafix  3200 color power  
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
America On_Line:  DWS Steve    Apple IIgs Forever!
#  With a 4 line .sig, which is all my mailer will post!  :P  #