[net.space] Interplanetary Migration for population control

dad@u1100s.UUCP (09/16/83)

Several people have recently posted articles arguing that since
commercial aviation is able to move more than 300K people per day,
it should be possible to have an out migration from Earth of the
same magnitude.  One significant problem with this line of reasoning
is that the vehicles used to transport commercial aviation passengers
one day are still around to transport more passengers the next day.
In an out bound migration, the vehicles used to transport the passengers
are gone from the system once they are used.  (I am talking about the
interplanetary vehicles, not the shuttles used to move the passengers
to Earth orbit.)  I would hate to think what would happen to the Earth's
supplies of spaceship building materials (e.g. titanium) after 100 years
of sending out thousands of ships each day.

		Doug Davey    Bell Labs    ihnp4!u1100s!dad

Heiny.Henr@Parc-Maxc.Arpa@sri-unix.UUCP (09/19/83)

From:  Chris Heiny <Heiny.Henr@Parc-Maxc.Arpa>

	"One significant problem with this line of reasoning is that the
vehicles
	used to transport commercial aviation passengers one day are still
around
	to transport more passengers the next day.  In an out bound migration,
the
	vehicles used to transport the passengers are gone from the system once
	they are used.  (I am talking about the interplanetary vehicles, not
the
	shuttles used to move the passengers to Earth orbit.)  I would hate to
	think what would happen to the Earth's supplies of spaceship building
	materials (e.g. titanium) after 100 years of sending out thousands of
ships
	each day"

Detroit has been consuming much more steel to produce autos than it has
in it's natural environs for the past 70 years.  Perhaps titanium, etc.
can be imported to earth.  The ships could even be built on the moon, a
much more reasonable place to construct them: you wouldn't have to lift
them out of earths gravity well.  And the ships would also probably be
used to make round trips: it is probably more economical to send an
partly loaded liner back to earth from the asteroids than to build
another and let that one rust.  Eventually trade between the colonies
and earth would reach a point where vessels would be fully laden each
way (as with trade between the New World and Europe).  Europe was not
denuded of trees and iron during the conquest of the New World.

					Chris

REM@MIT-MC@sri-unix.UUCP (09/20/83)

From:  Robert Elton Maas <REM @ MIT-MC>

You are arguing a red herring. Nobody (in hir right mind) would
propose building millions of spacecraft on Earth and sending them up
once and never bringing them back for reuse, when a shuttle exists as
an alternative. The idea is to reuse shuttles many times, like
commercial airliners, to transport people in large numbers from Earth
to space stations. At that point the people may move into new space
habitats which are built in space out of space-found materials, or may
be moved to other places in spaceships built again out of space-found
materials.