[comp.sys.apple2] Too quick for me!

benson@VUSE.VANDERBILT.EDU (Paul Benson) (05/05/91)

Jeez, you guys are really quick with the responses.  We _just_ got
   news service here at Vandy, but cannot post from the news program.
   One thing I've noticed is that since the xmissions are mostly sent
   overnight, I see the question followed by a bunch of responses. 
   This is good, but I'd like to know how everyone seems to be able to
   get the questions so quickly.  I'd like to answer some, too (to show
   off, of course).  Would subscribing to the mail service give me
   faster turnaround?  Just wondering.

   Also, someone wrote about the Apple Cat modem, and if it could be
   sped up above 300 baud.  I believe it can, but with another board
   being required.  Good luck on finding this board.  I have a friend
   with a Cat, and will make sure that I am telling you the truth.

   Concerning washing the keyboard.  I remember a conversation similar
   to this on GEnie.  It boiled down to, some people do, but I would
   never do it.  One person said they have even put their motherboard
   in a dishwasher (without soap I would assume).  I can see how that might
   work; the water would clean everything, no power should be on the 
   board and then the dry cycle should get rid of any excess water before
   you plug it back in.  Two things concern me, 1) the heat of the water
   and dry cycle.  Chips have certain heat specs and may be damaged by
   excessive heat. 2) Power still in caps and more importantly, the
   battery on the GS.  This is why I have never done it, but I know
   some people have.

   Pauley (benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu)  GEnie: P.BENSON1
   Vanderbilt University

whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com (Tae Song) (05/08/91)

|   Concerning washing the keyboard.  I remember a conversation similar
|   to this on GEnie.  It boiled down to, some people do, but I would
|   never do it.  One person said they have even put their motherboard
|   in a dishwasher (without soap I would assume).  I can see how that might
|   work; the water would clean everything, no power should be on the
|   board and then the dry cycle should get rid of any excess water before
|   you plug it back in.  Two things concern me, 1) the heat of the water
|   and dry cycle.  Chips have certain heat specs and may be damaged by
|   excessive heat. 2) Power still in caps and more importantly, the
|   battery on the GS.  This is why I have never done it, but I know
|   some people have.
|
|   Pauley (benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu)  GEnie: P.BENSON1
|   Vanderbilt University

1. You don't have to worry about the heat of the water, chips can handle
   temperatures well above boiling point of water, upto and over 300 degrees F.
   Heck if that couldn't even stand that, they'd all be dead from the soldering
   process.  (With stand boiling temperture of water).

2. There isn't THAT much power in the caps... maybe if you had one the size of
   a persons torso and it was fully charged.  I'm talking about a cap several
   times the value and rating... 200V, 1 farad.  If your really that cautious
   than you can discharge them simple by shorting the leads... although I'd
   probablely simplely discharge the 22 uf ones, but I'd consider that an
   overkill, still.

The battery is a different case, not because of the voltage or anything, but
because it's made out of lithium, which will explode if it comes in contact
with water.

Neither capacitors nor the batteries have enough power to short the mother
board... as it is water is not a great conductor, even with the impurities that
you will find in you tap water.
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