isbell@athena.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) (05/02/91)
I still can't get GS/OS to recognize my hard drive.
Here's the ongoing SCSI hell:
When I tried to use the SCSI installer included on the SCSI utilities to
install the SCSI drivers, it didn't do anything to let me see the hard
drive, but every time I tried to run an 8bit program it informed me that
Prodos 8 was "not compatible" and forced a reboot.
With an uncorrupted 5.0.4 system, the watch stays on the screen for
a while during the Finder's search for the harddrive (assuming I've copied the
appropriate drivers, of course, without them I get a message telling me
that the SCSI card needs a SCSI driver.). It appears that the 16 bit stuff
recognizes the partitions, but can't access them at all (I get a list of
the partitions from something like, say, Shrinkit GS, but any attempt to
actually catalog the partitions returns Invalid Device Number).
Strangely, I can launch an 8 bit program like the SCSI Utilities and partition
the drive or Copy II Plus and format the partitions if I wish. In fact, I
can use Copy II Plus to copy things onto the drive and actually boot 8bit
stuff from it! It is very, very slow in doing this though.
Anyway, I have: Transwarp, Sonic Card, OctoRAM memory, and now this SCSI card.
I have all the switches on the card closed (although, I have tried it with
switch one open). I got the power case from someone and the hardrive itself
is a Rodime 43M. When I first hooked up the system, I could actually get
one of the partitions to pop up (it was previously owned by a GS user) and
I copied a few files I wanted from it (things I meant to download off the net
one day anyway) and proceeded to re partition the drive. Now I can't find
any of it (I couldn't find one of the partitions in the first place). I think
I'm going to scream.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Peace.
"Love is like a snowmobile rushing across the tundra and then
suddenly it flips over pinning you underneath. At night,
the Ice Weasels come."
-Matt Groening, "Love is Hell"
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MIT has no opinions to adopt. | / \ | isbell@athena.mit.edu, isbell@ai.mit.edularry@pro-odyssey.cts.com (System Administrator) (05/04/91)
In-Reply-To: message from isbell@athena.mit.edu >I still can't get GS/OS to recognize my hard drive. >Here's the ongoing SCSI hell: >When I tried to use the SCSI installer included on the SCSI utilities to >install the SCSI drivers, it didn't do anything to let me see the hard >drive. >Anyway, I have: Transwarp, Sonic Card, OctoRAM memory, and now this SCSIcard. >I have all the switches on the card closed (although, I have tried it with >witch one open). I got the power case from someone and the hardrive itself >is a Rodime 43M. When I first hooked up the system, I could actually get >one of the partitions to pop up (it was previously owned by a GS user) and >I copied a few files I wanted from it (things I meant to download off the net >one day anyway) and proceeded to re partition the drive. Now I can't find >any of it (I couldn't find one of the partitions in the first place). I >think I'm going to scream. Turn DMA on the APPLE SCSI card OFF and it should work. Leave all the other switches on. the transwarp / SCSI combination is most likely your problem with DMA on. ---- ProLine: larry@pro-odyssey Internet: larry@pro-odyssey.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-odyssey!larry ARPA: crash!pro-odyssey!larry@nosc.mil
whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com (Tae Song) (05/07/91)
|Here's the ongoing SCSI hell: | |When I tried to use the SCSI installer included on the SCSI utilities to |install the SCSI drivers, it didn't do anything to let me see the hard |drive, but every time I tried to run an 8bit program it informed me that |Prodos 8 was "not compatible" and forced a reboot. | |With an uncorrupted 5.0.4 system, the watch stays on the screen for |a while during the Finder's search for the harddrive (assuming I've copied the |appropriate drivers, of course, without them I get a message telling me |that the SCSI card needs a SCSI driver.). It appears that the 16 bit stuff |recognizes the partitions, but can't access them at all (I get a list of |the partitions from something like, say, Shrinkit GS, but any attempt to |actually catalog the partitions returns Invalid Device Number). [REST DELETED] Sounds simple enough... get your second system disk with the name /System.Tools You will in on it a System folder, and within that a Driver folder and within that SCSI.Manager and SCSI.HD. You want to copy these to your BOOT disk. /System.Tools/System/Drivers/SCSI.Manager SCSI.HD Copy to /System.Disk/System/Drivers/ Reboot and you should be OK. INET: whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com UUCP: crash!gnh-starport!whitewolf ARPA: crash!gnh-starport!whitewolf@nosc.mil
whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com (Tae Song) (05/08/91)
|Turn DMA on the APPLE SCSI card OFF and it should work. Leave all the other |switches on. the transwarp / SCSI combination is most likely your problem |with DMA on. I thought the TransWarp GS was DMA compatible? If he is using an OctRAM memory card he must be using a GS. You'd only have a peoblem if you're using a the older TWGS, which isn't fully DMA compatible and need the PALs replaced. INET: whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com UUCP: crash!gnh-starport!whitewolf ARPA: crash!gnh-starport!whitewolf@nosc.mil
gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) (05/11/91)
In article <m0jajfM-0000BVC@jartel.info.com> whitewolf@gnh-starport.cts.com (Tae Song) writes: >|Turn DMA on the APPLE SCSI card OFF and it should work. Leave all the other >|switches on. the transwarp / SCSI combination is most likely your problem >|with DMA on. >I thought the TransWarp GS was DMA compatible? If he is using an OctRAM memory >card he must be using a GS. >You'd only have a peoblem if you're using a the older TWGS, which isn't fully >DMA compatible and need the PALs replaced. We've been over this one before, too. Summarizing: You need the TWGS 2B PAL upgrade for DMA compatibility. You also need the OctoRAM configured with 1MB SIMMs, or else no more than 4 of the 256KB SIMMs. 8 256KB SIMMs is not a DMA-compatible configuration for the OctoRAM. (Technically, 8 1MB SIMMs is also not a DMA-compatible configuration, but the special hackery in Apple's High-Speed SCSI Card firmware to avoid DMA to addresses higher than 4MB will prevent a problem, especially if you set aside the upper 4MB as a RAM disk via the IIGS Control Panel.)