isbell@athena.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) (05/07/91)
So, anyway, I've used GIF3200 to make GIF files 3200 files. Is there
a utility out there somewhere to make 3200 files GIF files?
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From isbell@athena.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell): > So, anyway, I've used GIF3200 to make GIF files 3200 files. Is there > a utility out there somewhere to make 3200 files GIF files? The only one I know of is SuperConvert 3.0 (from Seven Hills Software). I don't think you can go directly from 3200 to GIF. You might have to change it into a 256-colour approximation, and then a GIF. Ask someone who has SuperConvert.
sharris@chopin.udel.edu (Scott A Harris) (05/07/91)
In article <yL7J21w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Brian Tao) writes: >From isbell@athena.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell): > > The only one I know of is SuperConvert 3.0 (from Seven Hills Software). >I don't think you can go directly from 3200 to GIF. You might have to >change it into a 256-colour approximation, and then a GIF. Ask someone who >has SuperConvert. Were can this SuperConvert be purchased. Hmmmmmmm. Thanks Scott dead -- Scott A. Harris sharris @ brahms.udel.edu sharris @ chopin.udel.edu HIO01142 @ udelvm.udel.edu harris @ freezer.it.udel.edu 71311,2700 @ CompuServe s.harris12 @ GEnie
taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Brian Tao) (05/07/91)
From sharris@chopin.udel.edu (Scott A Harris):
> Were can this SuperConvert be purchased. Hmmmmmmm.
Directly from Seven Hills Software, I would imagine. Programs Plus also
sells SuperConvert for $22. If you're into moving lots of graphics around
different computers, SC 3.0 sounds like exactly what you need.
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(desperately seeking a .sig)taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Brian Tao) (05/07/91)
From kolesar@plains.NoDak.edu (Joe Kolesar): > The author was supposed to incorporate a lot of new features into > the program, and I heard he even put in an IFF->GS converter. Yes, you can convert Amiga IFF as well as several IBM graphic formats (DeluxePaint II IFF, PC Paintbrush .PCX files, and a few others which escape me at the moment). I don't have SC 3.0 myself, so I can't give you a featre list. It looks a lot like SHRConvert 2.1 (with the three windows), but the list of conversions is MUCH more impressive. There is even support for TIFF files created by PageMaker 4.0 on the Mac! > Does anyone with a copy know what's new with SC 3.0 compared to > SHRConvert v2.1? This is basically what Jason Harper wrote in the "What's New?" section of the help: "There have been too many changes made to the last shareware version of SHRConvert 2.1 to list here. In future versions, this page will list changes from the previous version." That is NO understatement. Jason has included a plethora of dithering/re-mapping/transformation algorithms to make your conversions as nice as possible. 320-mode, 640-mode, mixed resolutions, multi-palettes, etc. Unfortunately, it does not support 3200-colour output yet (but you can convert 3200-colour images into rahther nice-looking 256-colour graphics for startup screens). -- Brian T. Tao *B-) | taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca | "Though this be 2705-1510 Riverside | - or - | madness, yet there Ottawa, ON K1G 4X5 | taob@micor.uucp | is method in 't."
kolesar@plains.NoDak.edu (Joe Kolesar) (05/07/91)
In article <k7wk22w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Brian Tao) writes: >If you're into moving lots of graphics around >different computers, SC 3.0 sounds like exactly what you need. The author was supposed to incorporate a lot of new features into the program, and I heard he even put in an IFF->GS converter. Does anyone with a copy know what's new with SC 3.0 compared to SHRConvert v2.1? -- Joe Kolesar Mail: kolesar@plains.nodak.edu Flames: swiers@plains.nodak.edu Cleared by Iraqi Censors Disclaimer: Do you actually think I wrote this? Roommate: "I think I should become an English major. After all, I did do good on my English SAT." Me: "Don't you mean you did well?" Roommate: "Oh, I guess English is out of the question then."
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (05/08/91)
In article <10239@plains.NoDak.edu> kolesar@plains.NoDak.edu (Joe Kolesar) writes: >The author was supposed to incorporate a lot of new features into the >program, and I heard he even put in an IFF->GS converter. Does anyone >with a copy know what's new with SC 3.0 compared to SHRConvert v2.1? Uhh, I know that it's not faster in GIF conversions than old versions.. Or at least it's not up to the speed of recent GIF converters... You people wait until you see Lord High Giffer.. WOW! (Comon, Todd.. comon! Hurryup! New beta release!) I e-mailed Jason Harper on CompuServe a while ago and told him there were much faster GIF converters out now and he said he wasn't interested in getting a faster GIF converter... Sure seems strange, when Todd's GIF converter when it was COMPLETELY in C, it was faster than SHRConvert. (I believe completely in BASIC it was faster too) Todd, please correct any misstatements on my part. -- /unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu Apple IIGS Forever! unknown@cats.ucsc.edu\ |WANT to help get ULTIMA VI //e or GS written?-mail me. CHEAP CD info-mail me.| \ It's a Late Night World.... Of Love /
meekins@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) (05/08/91)
In article <15522@darkstar.ucsc.edu> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) writes: > >In article <10239@plains.NoDak.edu> kolesar@plains.NoDak.edu (Joe Kolesar) writes: >>The author was supposed to incorporate a lot of new features into the >>program, and I heard he even put in an IFF->GS converter. Does anyone >>with a copy know what's new with SC 3.0 compared to SHRConvert v2.1? > > Uhh, I know that it's not faster in GIF conversions than old >versions.. Or at least it's not up to the speed of recent GIF >converters... You people wait until you see Lord High Giffer.. WOW! >(Comon, Todd.. comon! Hurryup! New beta release!) The main reason that GIF is not faster in SC 3.0 is becuase it doesn't exist. Jason left it out due to doubts about the patent/copyright/whatever on the GIF/LZW/whatever code. > > I e-mailed Jason Harper on CompuServe a while ago and told him >there were much faster GIF converters out now and he said he wasn't >interested in getting a faster GIF converter... > Of course not, he doesn't even include GIF. > Sure seems strange, when Todd's GIF converter when it was COMPLETELY >in C, it was faster than SHRConvert. (I believe completely in BASIC it was >faster too) Todd, please correct any misstatements on my part. Well, Give Jason some credit. He DID use APW C, which we all know doesn't produce the quickest code (but hey, it DOES work, unlike another C), and it also has a nice color mapping which can also take time. -- +---------------------------S-U-P-P-O-R-T-----------------------------------+ |/ Tim Meekins <<>> Snail Mail: <<>> Apple II \| |> meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu <<>> 8372 Morris Rd. <<>> Forever! <| |\ timm@pro-tcc.cts.com <<>> Hilliard, OH 43026 <<>> /|
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) (05/08/91)
In article <118375@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> meekins@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes: > >> I e-mailed Jason Harper on CompuServe a while ago and told him >>there were much faster GIF converters out now and he said he wasn't >>interested in getting a faster GIF converter... >> > >Of course not, he doesn't even include GIF. Your information is somewhat outdated. SuperConvert v3.0, the shipping version includes GIF. The betas did not for the reasons you mentioned. I guess it was brought back because of the demand (?). Steven Chiang Coming Soon: DreamGrafix 3200 color power stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu America On_Line: DWS Steve Apple IIgs Forever!
daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Huang) (05/09/91)
In article <118375@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> meekins@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes: >The main reason that GIF is not faster in SC 3.0 is becuase it doesn't >exist. Jason left it out due to doubts about the patent/copyright/whatever >on the GIF/LZW/whatever code. Have you actually seen SuperConvert 3.0? I ask since the guy from Seven Hills has repeatedly stated on America Online that SC 3.0 _does_ have GIF conversion. Jason was going to leave it out, but he finally got some kind of deal and SC now does GIF. >Well, Give Jason some credit. He DID use APW C, which we all know doesn't >produce the quickest code (but hey, it DOES work, unlike another C), and it >also has a nice color mapping which can also take time. The color mapping is the _only_ thing I like about SHRConvert 2.1... it makes OK looking dithered 16 color pics out of 256 color GIFs (provided they're small enough). Also, I think SuperConvert is limited to 640x400 pics (I think that's 640 mode, but I'm not sure), which is pretty small. It can't even load all of a 640x480 pic :-( I agree with Unknown; Lord High Giffer looks very promising. Just the other day, I loaded a 1xxx by something GIF with no problems at all (it was converted from a grayscale TIFF, and you know how big those 300 dpi scans are!) Any new betas yet, Todd? I've still got the seed version... >-- >+---------------------------S-U-P-P-O-R-T-----------------------------------+ >|/ Tim Meekins <<>> Snail Mail: <<>> Apple II \| >|> meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu <<>> 8372 Morris Rd. <<>> Forever! <| >|\ timm@pro-tcc.cts.com <<>> Hilliard, OH 43026 <<>> /| +-------------------------S-H-A-R-E-W-A-R-E---------------------------------+ ;-) -- David Huang | Internet: daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | "Help! My ganglion is UUCP: ...!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!daveh | stuck in some chewing gum!" America Online: DrWho29 |
meekins@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) (05/09/91)
In article <48664@ut-emx.uucp> daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Huang) writes: >In article <118375@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> meekins@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes: > >Have you actually seen SuperConvert 3.0? I ask since the guy from >Seven Hills has repeatedly stated on America Online that SC 3.0 _does_ >have GIF conversion. Jason was going to leave it out, but he finally >got some kind of deal and SC now does GIF. > As mentioned previously. I blew it, since I've only seen the beta version. >The color mapping is the _only_ thing I like about SHRConvert 2.1... >it makes OK looking dithered 16 color pics out of 256 color GIFs >(provided they're small enough). Also, I think SuperConvert is limited >to 640x400 pics (I think that's 640 mode, but I'm not sure), which is >pretty small. It can't even load all of a 640x480 pic :-( I agree with >Unknown; Lord High Giffer looks very promising. Just the other day, I >loaded a 1xxx by something GIF with no problems at all (it was >converted from a grayscale TIFF, and you know how big those 300 dpi >scans are!) Any new betas yet, Todd? I've still got the seed >version... > LHG does sound great, but I'm sure its speed will descrease once Todd adds some real fancy color mapping. But, I'm positive it will still be quite a bit more quicker than SC. Also, the main question that started this feed was whether there were any programs that would store a 3200 as a GIF. I don't know for a fact, but I suspect the The Graphics Exchange can do it. Maybe someone who has a copy can verify this. -Tim PS. "Look ma, new sig!!! It's only 4 lines now!!" -- ++------------S-U-P-P-O-R-T---S-H-A-R-E-W-A-R-E---O-R---D-I-E-!-----------++ || Tim Meekins || Snail Mail: || Apple II || || meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu || 8372 Morris Rd. || Forever! || \\___timm@pro-tcc.cts.com________/\____Hilliard, OH 43026__/\_____________//
gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gregory Ross Thompson) (05/10/91)
meekins@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes: > Also, the main question that started this feed was whether there were > any programs that would store a 3200 as a GIF. I don't know for a fact, > but I suspect the The Graphics Exchange can do it. Maybe someone who > has a copy can verify this. Okay, I will. Yes, The Graphic Exchange (by John MacLean), along with Library Disk #1 (which either is now available from RWP, or will be very soon) can load GIFs of any size (as far as I can tell), do some amazing pallette selection (1, 16, or 200 pallettes), and save the result. The conversions are all VERY fast. Once Todd has LHG working and doing good color optimizations, I'd love to do a time trial. I think TGE can hold it's ground against just about anything. TGE can save (and load) EVERY existing 3200 format. It'll do the French 3201 (or whatever you wanna call it), it'll do Brook's format, it'll do 'em all. If you do lots of work with pics (Especially GIFs & 3200s), I highly suggest you call RWP right now, and order yourself a copy of TGE. John MacLean has put a LOT of work into it. RWP's number is (619) 442-0522, and the item # for TGE is 271... No, I don't work for RWP... > -Tim > > PS. "Look ma, new sig!!! It's only 4 lines now!!" > -- > ++------------S-U-P-P-O-R-T---S-H-A-R-E-W-A-R-E---O-R---D-I-E-!-----------++ > || Tim Meekins || Snail Mail: || Apple II || > || meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu || 8372 Morris Rd. || Forever! || > \\___timm@pro-tcc.cts.com________/\____Hilliard, OH 43026__/\_____________// Nice, Tim. It's beautiful. It's even short enough so that it doesn't wrap around when people quote/caption/whatever it... -Greg T. InterNet: gt0t+@andrew.cmu.edu BITNet : R746GT0T@CMCCVB AOL : GRThompson
johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz (John MacLean) (05/10/91)
In article <118614@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> meekins@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes: >In article <48664@ut-emx.uucp> daveh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Huang) writes: >>In article <118375@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> meekins@gryphon.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes: >> >Also, the main question that started this feed was whether there were >any programs that would store a 3200 as a GIF. I don't know for a fact, >but I suspect the The Graphics Exchange can do it. Maybe someone who >has a copy can verify this. >-Tim Yes, TGE can do it also, but you need TGE Library Disk #1. It has two 3200 toolsets which can load and save all the 3200 file formats and lots of GIF toolsets to handle color mapping and scaling in various ways. However, the *real power* only comes when you get TGE Library Disk #2 (which is yet to be released). I'm almost there now (unfortunately, my studies and my job have to come first - My final exam is June 15 - Yeah!). John MacLean. -- This net: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz Phone: +61 2 427 2999 That net: uunet!fawlty.towers.oz!johnmac Fax: +61 2 427 7072 Snail: Tower Technology, Unit D 31-33 Sirius Rd, Home: +61 2 960 1453 Lane Cove, NSW 2066, Australia.
lhaider@pro-nbs.cts.com (Laer Haider) (05/10/91)
In-Reply-To: message from taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca >>From sharris@chopin.udel.edu (Scott A Harris): >> Were can this SuperConvert be purchased. Hmmmmmmm. > > Directly from Seven Hills Software, I would imagine. Programs Plus also >sells SuperConvert for $22. If you're into moving lots of graphics around >different computers, SC 3.0 sounds like exactly what you need. This is a big problem in the Apple community, and growing. How is anyone to know that a program is available for our computers? We should start a monthly list of available programs, approximate prices and mail order sources for programs for the Apple II series. Something like the Games ratings list, or FAQ. I'd love to do something like it, but am usually deep in the dark concerning what's available. Any takers? / _______________________________________________ \ / / ProLine: pro-nbs!lhaider \\\' , / // INET: lhaider@pro-nbs.cts.com \\\//, _/ //, UUCP: crash!pro-nbs!lhaider \_-//' / //<, ARPA: crash!pro-nbs!lhaider@nosc.mil \ /// <//` BITNET: lhaider%pro-nbs.cts.com@nosc.mil / >> \\\`__/_ /,)-^>>\` , \\\ The opinions express here are just opinions. (/ \\ /\\\ Don't have a cow man! // _//\\\\ ----------------------------------------------- ((` ((
christob@neabbs.UUCP (TEKSTOTAAL) (05/16/91)
A Dutch Apple IIGS group has publshed a 3000 files AppleWorks database with all known programs here in NL. You should write to: Guus Schijns Kastanjelaan 11 3442 JD Woerden The Netherlands He'll send you the disk for $10, I'm sure. greetin#! rnews 564 Path: telmail!neab