[comp.sys.apple2] new Apple II/GS System Software Complaint

nrunyon%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (The Third Bard) (05/23/91)

In article <16224@smoke.brl.mil> gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) writes:
>In article <1991May21.053346.20600@CAM.ORG> gammal@CAM.ORG (Michael Gammal) writes:
>>Let's just hope it isn't too late to revive interest among developers for
>>the Apple II...
>
>I don't understand the rumor, as Apple spokesmen have also said that they
>planned to introduce no new Apple II models.  However, I hope it's true..


	One thing I do not think we need to do here is speculate about a
rumor.  I beleive we just got done with a stream of posts about where rumors
get us (nowhere).  If something happen with the Apple II then great, but I 
do not think we should treat this as anything more then just rumor.
	No need to get your hopes up and then have them splattered all over
come July when System 6.0 is released and no new Apple II come out.  Don't
get me wrong, I would really like to see a new unit, but I am not holding
my breath over the possibility of it happening.

	In a latter post someone mention that they did not like the fact
that the GS windows had a white background with black text.  They thought
it should be the other way around.
	I think not.  User definable yes, but black windows with white 
text, no way.  

	Neil -

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MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (05/23/91)

On Wed, 22 May 91 17:16:56 GMT <info-apple-request@APPLE.COM> said:
>
>	One thing I do not think we need to do here is speculate about a
>rumor.  I beleive we just got done with a stream of posts about where rumors
>get us (nowhere).

Well, that's debatable if they get us nowhere.  Rumors spark interest and
even get people on the ball to create something when a rumor fails, but
but rumors are not the reason I'm replying... read below...

>	In a latter post someone mention that they did not like the fact
>that the GS windows had a white background with black text.  They thought
>it should be the other way around.
>	I think not.  User definable yes, but black windows with white
>text, no way.

(OK, I know this is my third time commenting on this, but I feel very
 strongly about this...)

Alot of us would say, "but white windows with black text, no way!"  It just
has to do with personal preference.  I don't think it should be 'forced' one
way or the other, but user selectable, much like Windows 3.0.  That's one of
the FEW things I actually LIKE about MS-Windows.

>	Neil -
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MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (05/24/91)

On Thu, 23 May 91 13:02:00 CDT MR.FANTASTIC said:

>  For those of you wanting to change to background and text, there is a program
>out called GUImaster which I d/loaded from America Online. It lets you change
>colors for windows and other things. I don't know if it will solve your problem
>but it might. Give it a try.....

This sounds great!  Does it actually work?  Is it available via FTP anywhere?
I'm not on AO.  If I were, I couldn't afford the electricity my computer runs
on :)

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drudman@hpcc01.HP.COM (Drew Rudman) (05/24/91)

Well if Apple allowed users to set the color pallete of the finder then they
would be ripping of Windows 3.0 (which allows the user to just that.)  Looks
like we might see a reverse lawsuit :)

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RXBROWN@UALR.BITNET ("MR.FANTASTIC") (05/24/91)

>>  For those of you wanting to change to background and text, there is a progra
   m
>>out called GUImaster which I d/loaded from America Online. It lets you change
>>colors for windows and other things. I don't know if it will solve your proble
   m
>>but it might. Give it a try.....
>
>This sounds great!  Does it actually work?  Is it available via FTP anywhere?
>I'm not on AO.  If I were, I couldn't afford the electricity my computer runs
>on :)
>
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>>Academic Computing Services Lab Manager * programmers know best.
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  I tried it out a little bit, but then took it off because I was testing out
a bunch of stuff that I had just d/loaded. I don't think its on and of the FTP
sites, but I will try and upload it this weekend to comp.binaries.Apple2, or
as I see it WUARCHIVE.

Robert
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taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Brian Tao) (05/25/91)

drudman@hpcc01.HP.COM (Drew Rudman) writes:

> Well if Apple allowed users to set the color pallete of the finder then they
> would be ripping of Windows 3.0 (which allows the user to just that.)  Looks
> like we might see a reverse lawsuit :)
> 
    Yes, but the Macintosh Finder lets you change colours on the fly as 
well, and that's been around before Windows 3.0.  I think we might see a 
counter-reverse lawsuit instead.  ;-)

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