araftis@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Alex Raftis) (09/15/90)
I've got an old Sider II Hard drive from First Class Peripherals, and I've
recently reconnected it to my Apple IIGS. My problem lies in getting GSOS to
recognize the drive. I've installed a SCSI driver, and have revision C ROMS
on the card (a set up that worked with GSOS 4.0), but at boot time, the
computer is unaware of the drive. If I drop down to Prodos 8 and access the
drive, a return to GSOS 5.0, the os will then enable the later dos to find
the drive. This is workable if not convenient.
Basically, I was wondering if someone had written some kind of init that
could fix the problem at boot time, or if someone knows why the os has trouble
finding things.
Thanks in advance,
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America Online: xela (Real Life: Alex Raftis)mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) (09/20/90)
In article <26f1e292.4121@petunia.CalPoly.EDU> araftis@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Alex Raftis) writes: > > >I've got an old Sider II Hard drive from First Class Peripherals, and I've >recently reconnected it to my Apple IIGS. My problem lies in getting GSOS to >recognize the drive. I've installed a SCSI driver, and have revision C ROMS >on the card (a set up that worked with GSOS 4.0), but at boot time, the >computer is unaware of the drive. If I drop down to Prodos 8 and access the >drive, a return to GSOS 5.0, the os will then enable the later dos to find >the drive. This is workable if not convenient. > >Basically, I was wondering if someone had written some kind of init that >could fix the problem at boot time, or if someone knows why the os has trouble >finding things. > >Thanks in advance, > This can't be fixed from an INIT. Here's why: All multi-OS ROMs shipped by First Class have a strange problem - they initialize themselves on the first ProDOS READ call (ProDOS driver protocol) they get. GS/OS first sends a STATUS call to the drive, and the Sider responds with "off-line" because it hasn't gotten a "READ" yet and therefore hasn't initialized itself. The problem goes away if you have a) the all-ProDOS ROMs from that company in Georgia whose name I can't remember, or b) if you boot from the Sider since the ROM-based boot process will READ from the drive before GS/OS is even off the disk, or c) if you have the GS/OS drivers from First Class which speed up the Sider by about 2X anyway. The problem occurs when the drivers are loaded and generated, which is before the INITs are loaded and executed, so no INIT can fix it since the damage is already done. GS/OS currently re-generates generated drivers when warm restarting, so doing a READ to the drive in ProDOS 8 will mean GS/OS will generate a drive for it when you return. -- ============================================================================ Matt Deatherage, Apple Computer, Inc. | "The opinions represented here are Developer Technical Support, Apple II | not necessarily those of Apple Group. Personal mail only, please. | Computer, Inc. Remember that." ============================================================================
grohol@novavax.UUCP (John Grohol) (05/27/91)
Without getting into a debate about the Sider hard drive (smile), how is this thing parked? Is it auotmatically parked when I shut down my GS with "Shut Down" from the GS/OS? Thanks. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John M. Grohol || Nova University - Ft. Lauderdale, FL Internet: grohol@novavax.nova.edu || Center for Psychological Studies "So when you see a man who's broken, pick him up & carry him." - L. Anderson
drudman@hpcc01.HP.COM (Drew Rudman) (05/30/91)
I had a Sider a long time ago and I beleive that the only proper park utility for it is on the master disks that came with it (option number 7 on the menu of the Sider system disk.) I'm pretty sure that GS/OS is not properly parking your drive when you shut it down. This won't be a problem unless you wish to move the device, in which case I suggest using the supplied utility. [ Call... 9600bps/60meg ][ Drew Rudman ] [ The Charge ][ ] [ Apple ][ IBM ][ Internet: drudman@hpiosa.corp.hp.com ] [ (415) 321-4713 ][ The Charge BBS: Axe Slinger (#1) ]