[net.space] space elevators -- another advantage

Katz.uci-750a%Rand-Relay@sri-unix.UUCP (10/21/83)

Although the chief advantage of rocket alternatives is that you don't have
to lift the fuel, energy recycling is another advantage.  With two way
transfers (i.e. missions which eventually return), some lifting methods can
act like an energy bank.  You make a withdrawal when going put (up in the
gravity well), and you return most of what you withdrew when you return.
For a space elevator and some other systems, payloads going down help to
supply energy for the payloads going up.  Admittedly, some energy is almost
always lost and one can't always store up enough between launches.

Thus, SSteinberg's summary of Newtonian mechanics of launch are correct, but
neglect the change in mass due to fuel burning.  You reminded him about the
mass change, but neglected energy recycling.  Is there anything else we left
out?

REM%MIT-MC@sri-unix.UUCP (10/21/83)

From:  Robert Elton Maas <REM @ MIT-MC>

Indeed, if a space elevator (or rotating skyhook) is designed to
recover energy on descending payloads, then it would be
self-supporting energywise because when we start processing asteroids
for Earth-consumed materials more stuff will be coming to Earth than
leaving Earth on the elevator/hook, and with reasonable efficiency the
energy recovered from descending materials should exceed the energy
needed for ascending people and equipment.

rbc@houxw.UUCP (10/26/83)

You could use the structure of a power evelvator
to carry the energy from an SPS to the Earth.
In a superconducting cable perhaps.

Avoiding all the microwaves from space to ground
would cancel a lot of fears for the SPS.