taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Brian Tao) (06/01/91)
I want to include the Installer with a shareware HCGS stack I'm writing. I have the Installer script written and ready to go. Problem is, do I need to license GS/OS just to distribute the Installer program? It comes on tthe System Tools disk, so I assume it is part of the system software. Am I correct in this assumption? I'd rather not pay a $50 fee for something like shareware or freeware. -- Brian T. Tao *B-) | taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca | "Though this be 2705-1510 Riverside | - or - | madness, yet there Ottawa, ON K1G 4X5 | taob@micor.uucp | is method in 't."
geniusman@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Chris Moylan) (06/03/91)
In-Reply-To: message from taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca > I want to include the Installer with a shareware HCGS stack I'm writing. >I have the Installer script written and ready to go. Problem is, do I need >to license GS/OS just to distribute the Installer program? It comes on tthe >System Tools disk, so I assume it is part of the system software. Am I >correct in this assumption? I'd rather not pay a $50 fee for something >like shareware or freeware. Why not just include the scripts? Instruct the users to place them in their /system.tools/scripts/ folder and execute the Installer program they already have? Hope I helped! Chris Chris Moylan | ProLine: geniusman@pro-hindugods CoSysop: Hindu Love Gods BBS | Internet: geniusman@pro-hindugods.cts.com 313/644-0481 | UUCP: crash!pro-hindugods!geniusman 300-9600 bps, v.32/v.42/v.42bis | ARPA: crash!pro-hindugods!geniusman@nosc.mil
diz@pro-gsplus.cts.com (Steven Disbrow) (06/05/91)
In-Reply-To: message from taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca Brian T. Tao writes: >I want to include the Installer with a shareware HCGS stack... >...do I need to liscense GS/OS just to distribute the Installer? Actually, it's not GS/OS you have to liscense, it's the System Software. The cost is $75/year and yep, you have to liscense the whole thing to distribute any one part of it. We liscense it so that we can include the Installer on the GS+ Disk. For a complete liscensing package, call Stephanie Gwerder at (408) 974-4771. My advice would be to include your Installer _scripts_ with your stack and require the user to provide the Installer program. It will require a bit of extra documentation, but it will save you some bucks. Diz
JWANKERL@UTCVM.BITNET ("Josef W. Wankerl") (06/06/91)
On Wed, 5 Jun 91 07:56:04 GMT Steven Disbrow said: >In-Reply-To: message from taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca >My advice would be to include your Installer _scripts_ with your stack and >require the user to provide the Installer program. It will require a bit >of extra documentation, but it will save you some bucks. Actually, you'd save documentation. You could avoid describing how to hand install the system. But, in relation to a package where the installer is included, there would be additional documentation telling the user to move the script to the disk that had the Installer and put it in a Script folder. :-) >Diz -- ===> Josef W. Wankerl, Technical Editor for GS+ Magazine BITNET: JWANKERL@UTCVM.BITNET | America Online: JWankerl ProLine: jwankerl@pro-gsplus |-------------------------------- Internet: jwankerl@pro-gsplus.cts.com | "I am a Viking" -Y. Malmsteen
mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) (06/06/91)
In article <gouu34w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Brian Tao) writes: > > I want to include the Installer with a shareware HCGS stack I'm writing. >I have the Installer script written and ready to go. Problem is, do I need >to license GS/OS just to distribute the Installer program? It comes on tthe >System Tools disk, so I assume it is part of the system software. Am I >correct in this assumption? I'd rather not pay a $50 fee for something >like shareware or freeware. > >-- >Brian T. Tao *B-) | taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca | "Though this be >2705-1510 Riverside | - or - | madness, yet there >Ottawa, ON K1G 4X5 | taob@micor.uucp | is method in 't." You are correct in the assumption. For the licensing fee of $100 (I think, I'm not sure), you get to license anything that comes on the two-disk System Software set. This is usually a good deal for developers, but it does backfire in the cases of shareware authors who want only one component of the System Software. Sorry. (BTW, the same is true for the 8-bit software -- when you license P8, you get to distribute P8 or anything else on the 8-bit system disk, including System Utilities, FastCopy, BASIC.SYSTEM and whatever else is there.) -- ============================================================================ Matt Deatherage, Developer Technical | The opinions expressed herein are Support, Apple Computer, Inc. | not those of Apple Computer, and Personal mail only, please. Thanks. | shame on you for thinking otherwise. ^^^^^^^^ Technical questions are not personal. Please post them instead. ============================================================================
q4kx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Joel Sumner) (06/06/91)
In article <53690@apple.Apple.COM>, mattd@Apple.COM (Matt Deatherage) writes: > In article <gouu34w162w@micor.ocunix.on.ca> taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Brian Tao) writes: >> >> I want to include the Installer with a shareware HCGS stack I'm writing. >>I have the Installer script written and ready to go. Problem is, do I need >>to license GS/OS just to distribute the Installer program? It comes on tthe >>System Tools disk, so I assume it is part of the system software. Am I >>correct in this assumption? I'd rather not pay a $50 fee for something >>like shareware or freeware. > > You are correct in the assumption. For the licensing fee of $100 (I think, > I'm not sure), you get to license anything that comes on the two-disk > System Software set. > > This is usually a good deal for developers, but it does backfire in the cases > of shareware authors who want only one component of the System Software. > Sorry. Matt. Since you and all other Apple people want us to use the installer so much, is there any way to convince Apple to make a separate license for the installer ($5 or something?). That way shareware developers would be more inclined to provide installation scripts, people would become more likely to use the installer, and everyone would be happy. How bout it? -- Joel Sumner GENIE:JOEL.SUMNER This .sig may not be used q4kx@cornella.ccs.cornell.edu q4kx@cornella for public viewing or q4kx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu q4kx@crnlvax5 rebroadcast without the .................................................... express written consent The impedance of absolutely nothing is 377 ohms. of major league baseball.
taob@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Brian Tao) (06/10/91)
diz@pro-gsplus.cts.com (Steven Disbrow) writes: > Actually, it's not GS/OS you have to liscense, it's the System Software. > The cost is $75/year and yep, you have to liscense the whole thing to > distribute any one part of it. We liscense it so that we can include the > Installer on the GS+ Disk. [..snip..] > My advice would be to include your Installer _scripts_ with your stack and > require the user to provide the Installer program. It will require a bit > of extra documentation, but it will save you some bucks. > > Diz I think that's what I will end up doing. It isn't all that hard to install the HCGS stack, icons, fonts, etc., but I guess for those who are still queasy when they open up the System folder, the script will put their minds at rest. On another topic: can I mail in a subscription to you through e-mail, or do you prefer the customary phone call/paper mail order form? Our user group here always has the latest issue of GS+ for reference at the meetings, and I _really_ want copies for myself now! :)