u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards) (06/18/91)
A question reguard legalities. A few have mentioned about throwing ROM3 Chips in a ROM1 GS via a card. And, Matt and Andy have cautioned us (correctly) about how the ROM3 Chips are NOT sold seperately. But what about the situation (like my own), where I own 2 GS's. One is a older ROM1 and the second is a ROM3. Am I legally entitled to copy my ROM3 and insert them (using the modification) into my older GS. -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Shane Richards u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (06/18/91)
In article <1991Jun18.034721.17665@cs.uow.edu.au> u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards) writes: > A question reguard legalities. A few have mentioned about throwing >ROM3 Chips in a ROM1 GS via a card. And, Matt and Andy have cautioned us >(correctly) about how the ROM3 Chips are NOT sold seperately. But what >about the situation (like my own), where I own 2 GS's. One is a older >ROM1 and the second is a ROM3. Am I legally entitled to copy my ROM3 and >insert them (using the modification) into my older GS. I am very very inclined to give a no answer to that question, although I can't think of reasons. However, you DEFINITELY could not sell that "ROM1" GS with the copied ROM 03 ROMs in it. -- /unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu Apple IIGS Forever! unknown@cats.ucsc.edu\ |WANT to help get ULTIMA VI //e or GS written?-mail me. CHEAP CD info-mail me.| \ It's a Late Night World.... Of Love /
stuckey@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Anthony J. Stuckey) (06/18/91)
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) writes: >In article <1991Jun18.034721.17665@cs.uow.edu.au> u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards) writes: >> A question reguard legalities. A few have mentioned about throwing >>ROM3 Chips in a ROM1 GS via a card. And, Matt and Andy have cautioned us >>(correctly) about how the ROM3 Chips are NOT sold seperately. But what >>about the situation (like my own), where I own 2 GS's. One is a older >>ROM1 and the second is a ROM3. Am I legally entitled to copy my ROM3 and >>insert them (using the modification) into my older GS. > I am very very inclined to give a no answer to that question, although >I can't think of reasons. I would assume this to be ROM upgrade, and subject to whatever Apple's policies are. I see _no_ difference between copying the roms yourself and doing this, and getting the proper channel stuff from Apple. *other people disagree with me on this, I know, I have argued with them in the past. > However, you DEFINITELY could not sell that "ROM1" GS with the copied >ROM 03 ROMs in it. Seconded. pristine stating is often the only legal way to deal with these -- Anthony J. Stuckey stuckey@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU (James Chiu) (06/18/91)
In article <1991Jun18.054454.24122@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> stuckey@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Anthony J. Stuckey) writes: >unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) writes: >>In article <1991Jun18.034721.17665@cs.uow.edu.au> u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards) writes: >>> A question reguard legalities. A few have mentioned about throwing >>>ROM3 Chips in a ROM1 GS via a card. And, Matt and Andy have cautioned us >>>(correctly) about how the ROM3 Chips are NOT sold seperately. But what >>>about the situation (like my own), where I own 2 GS's. One is a older >>>ROM1 and the second is a ROM3. Am I legally entitled to copy my ROM3 and >>>insert them (using the modification) into my older GS. >> I am very very inclined to give a no answer to that question, although >>I can't think of reasons. > I fear that I'll have to agree; Given that ROM is essentially software on chip, it follows that there can only be a single copy operating on a single computer at any one time, under ordinary software licensing agreements. As much as I would like to say that 'since Apple provides no ROM upgrade AT ALL it is ok...', laws governing this matter says otherwise. >I would assume this to be ROM upgrade, and subject to whatever Apple's >policies are. I see _no_ difference between copying the roms yourself >and doing this, and getting the proper channel stuff from Apple. >*other people disagree with me on this, I know, I have argued with them in the >past. > >> However, you DEFINITELY could not sell that "ROM1" GS with the copied >>ROM 03 ROMs in it. > >Seconded. pristine stating is often the only legal way to deal with these Agreed. >-- >Anthony J. Stuckey >stuckey@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu -jc
gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) (06/18/91)
In article <1991Jun18.034721.17665@cs.uow.edu.au> u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards) writes: >Am I legally entitled to copy my ROM3 and ... COPYright means ...
acmfiu@serss0.fiu.edu (albert chin) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.034721.17665@cs.uow.edu.au> u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards) writes: } } A question reguard legalities. A few have mentioned about throwing }ROM3 Chips in a ROM1 GS via a card. And, Matt and Andy have cautioned us }(correctly) about how the ROM3 Chips are NOT sold seperately. But what }about the situation (like my own), where I own 2 GS's. One is a older }ROM1 and the second is a ROM3. Am I legally entitled to copy my ROM3 and }insert them (using the modification) into my older GS. } } }-- }+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- }Shane Richards }u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au }+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- and just why not. *you* own both machines. there should be absolutely nothing prohibiting you from using either any way you want. now, i think what matt and andy are saying is that you cannot sell the ROM's you have. just think about it. you buy x from company 1 and y from company 2. does it make any sense that the law prohibits you from hacking x to look like y, just so long as *only you* use this hack (feel free to say how you did it). don't you remember the commerical, "hack all you want, we'll make more." :) albert