MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (05/30/91)
For those who read the DVORAK post, you can also set up your GS keyboard for DVORAK by going into the control panel, select options, change keyboard layout to DVORAK and PRESTO! ---------------------------------------- BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm <------------send files here pro-line-- mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com Assembly- a computer LANGUAGE. Assembler- NOT the name of a language. It's equivellent to a compiler.
m.tiernan@pro-angmar.UUCP (Michael Tiernan) (06/14/91)
In-Reply-To: message from shuford@cs.utk.edu On the Apple //e, there is simply a solder pad that needs to be shorted together to get the DVORAK key arrangement. ON the IIgs, the DVORAK may be selected from the control panel. If anyone wants details on the //e, e-mail me and I'll send you the info. << MCT >> GEnie : M.Tiernan America Online : M Tiernan or BCS Mike Internet : pro-angmar!m.tiernan@alfalfa.com UUCP : ...!uunet!alfalfa!pro-angmar!m.tiernan "God isn't dead, he's only missing in action." - Phil Ochs
asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) (06/19/91)
In-Reply-To: message from m.tiernan@pro-angmar.UUCP Is it really that hard to learn Dvorak? Does anyone know of a program that would teach Dvorak (a la Typing Tutor)? I would like to learn, as I have heard of people typing at speeds of 90wpm (?) using Dvorak????? Andi S ---- ProLine: asong@pro-nbs Internet: asong@pro-nbs.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-nbs!asong ARPA: crash!pro-nbs!asong@nosc.mil
benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Paul Benson) (06/19/91)
I apologize if this is posted twice. My roommate picked up the phone just as I was pressing 's' to send the letter. WHY does he do that? He KNOWS I'm online! Grrrr! ;) In article <4343.apple.a2.net@pro-nbs> asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from m.tiernan@pro-angmar.UUCP > > > Is it really that hard to learn Dvorak? Does anyone know of a >program that would teach Dvorak (a la Typing Tutor)? I would like to learn, >as I have heard of people typing at speeds of 90wpm (?) using Dvorak????? > > Andi S I'd say it took me about a good 2 months to become proficient on Dvorak. After a month I was the same as QWERTY, but now I'd guess I'm at about 80 wpm. I've never timed myself, so I don't really know, but I am much faste on Dvorak. If you have an Apple IIgs or //c you can easily switch to Dvorak by a (soft)switch. The IIe requires a hardware mod someone just mentioned a couple of days ago. So, any typing tutor will work since they only know what key is coming over the bus; you just have to change the keyboard map. Changing keyboards is not that hard, but I can no longer type QWERTY on _my_ keyboard. On my Sun, I type with a QWERTY with no real hang-ups. I have also written a Basic program with an short assembly getkey routine that helped me learn; if you want it I'll send it to you. It's not anything fancy, it just helps you learn the keys. Paul Vanderbilt University Genie: P.Benson1
gray@ibis.cs.umass.edu (Lyle Gray) (06/19/91)
In article <4343.apple.a2.net@pro-nbs> asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from m.tiernan@pro-angmar.UUCP > > > Is it really that hard to learn Dvorak? Does anyone know of a >program that would teach Dvorak (a la Typing Tutor)? I would like to learn, >as I have heard of people typing at speeds of 90wpm (?) using Dvorak????? > > Andi S Hmmm, this could be interesting. I type at 90wpm on a QUERTY keyboard. I wonder how fast I could go on a Dvorak layout? (And what it would do to my regular typing...) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lyle H. Gray Internet (personal): gray@cs.umass.edu Quodata Corporation Phone: (203) 728-6777, FAX: (203) 247-0249 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) (06/19/91)
In article <4343.apple.a2.net@pro-nbs> asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) writes: > Is it really that hard to learn Dvorak? Does anyone know of a >program that would teach Dvorak (a la Typing Tutor)? I would like to learn, >as I have heard of people typing at speeds of 90wpm (?) using Dvorak????? Dvorak, or more usually ASK (differs from Dvorak primarily in that the digits are arranged in order in ASK), is used by the fastest typists, such as the ones who set world records (I think the current record was set using an Apple //c). The state of Oregon requires that office workers be allowed to choose whether their equipment will be QWERTY or ASK. The Dvorak alphabetic arrangement is no harder to learn than the QWERTY arrangement, but instructional materials are hard to find. I think there is a Dvorak users group; you may hear further from a member.
MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (06/20/91)
On Tue, 18 Jun 1991 12:32:56 PDT Andi Song said: > > Is it really that hard to learn Dvorak? Does anyone know of a >program that would teach Dvorak (a la Typing Tutor)? I would like to learn, >as I have heard of people typing at speeds of 90wpm (?) using Dvorak????? It's not that difficult. Just set your keyboard to DVORAK (if you have a GS or //c) and put the DVORAK keyboard layout in front of you and try typing. It only takes less than an hour to -start- to get the hang of it. A person that hasn't already learned the QWERTY layout and had it burned in their brain (like myself) would not be as well of as someone who hasn't learned the QWERTY layout. Just pick up any typing game (like TypeMaster) and type away. Of course, you'l l have to ignore the directions that tell what the home keys are etc. >---- >ProLine: asong@pro-nbs >Internet: asong@pro-nbs.cts.com >UUCP: crash!pro-nbs!asong >ARPA: crash!pro-nbs!asong@nosc.mil ---------------------------------------- BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm <------------send files here pro-line-- mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com
MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET (06/20/91)
On Wed, 19 Jun 1991 10:42:49 GMT Lyle Gray said: > >Hmmm, this could be interesting. I type at 90wpm on a QUERTY keyboard. I >wonder how fast I could go on a Dvorak layout? (And what it would do to my >regular typing...) I started to learn how to type on a DVORAK and since I had already learned on a QWERTY keyboard, I kept making mistakes by typing QWERTY keys instead of DVORAK keys. When I'd go to a QWERTY keyboard, I made the opposite mistake. I would suggest sticking with one or the other. DVORAK is faster, but QWERTY is everywhere. If you learn DVORAK then go use a QWERTY, you'll probably go reeaalll sssllloooowwwww and make many mistakes. You have to decide whether or not it's worth the extra speed advantage. >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lyle H. Gray Internet (personal): gray@cs.umass.edu >Quodata Corporation Phone: (203) 728-6777, FAX: (203) 247-0249 >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- BITNET-- mquinn@utcvm <------------send files here pro-line-- mquinn@pro-gsplus.cts.com
benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Paul Benson) (06/20/91)
In article <32247@dime.cs.umass.edu> gray@ibis.cs.umass.edu (Lyle Gray) writes: > >Hmmm, this could be interesting. I type at 90wpm on a QUERTY keyboard. I >wonder how fast I could go on a Dvorak layout? (And what it would do to my >regular typing...) > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Lyle H. Gray Internet (personal): gray@cs.umass.edu >Quodata Corporation Phone: (203) 728-6777, FAX: (203) 247-0249 >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 90 wpm and you spell QWERTY wrong? Come on that's easy! ;) And yes it would be interesting as to what increase you would get. There must be some maximum nimbleness to the fingers that limits the wpm, but I would wager you would easily break the 100wpm in 3 months. My regular typing did not hurt much, you just have to get back into the groove. But I was no speed demon on QWERTY, so dropping from 30 to 29 wpm would go unnoticed. Try it, you'll like it. Paul Vanderbilt University GEnie: P.Benson1
asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) (06/20/91)
In-Reply-To: message from benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu Thanks. I guess I can just change the Control Panel to "Dvorak", but then I have to get some kind of plastic overlay to make the keys look like Dvorak... or take off all the keycaps and re-arrange them????????!!!!!! Andi Song ---- ProLine: asong@pro-nbs Internet: asong@pro-nbs.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-nbs!asong ARPA: crash!pro-nbs!asong@nosc.mil
lang@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Raymond Lang) (06/20/91)
In article <4343.apple.a2.net@pro-nbs> asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from m.tiernan@pro-angmar.UUCP > > > Is it really that hard to learn Dvorak? Does anyone know of a >program that would teach Dvorak (a la Typing Tutor)? I would like to learn, >as I have heard of people typing at speeds of 90wpm (?) using Dvorak????? I've been working with it for about three weeks now and I'm up to about 35 wpm. I'm using Mavis Beacon GS. The only real problem is that the program maps the keys over to the Dvorak layout in _software_, so you have to have the control panel set to the U.S. layout. In general, I like the layout. It makes a lot more sense than the Sholes arrangement. You can tell _immediately_ that your fingers aren't doing as much travelling around. Ray
gray@ibis.cs.umass.edu (Lyle Gray) (06/21/91)
In article <1991Jun19.214525.14977@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Paul Benson) writes: >In article <32247@dime.cs.umass.edu> gray@ibis.cs.umass.edu (Lyle Gray) writes: >> >>Hmmm, this could be interesting. I type at 90wpm on a QUERTY keyboard... > > 90 wpm and you spell QWERTY wrong? Come on that's easy! ;) So, it's not a word I use frequently, and my hands spelled it phonetically... It comes from finger memory typing. My concious mind doesn't know where the keys are on the keyboard. As for breaking the 100 wpm barrier, it's not just maximum finger nimbleness that affects that limit: It's program response time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lyle H. Gray Internet (personal): gray@cs.umass.edu Quodata Corporation Phone: (203) 728-6777, FAX: (203) 247-0249 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
andy@pro-palmtree.cts.com (Andy Stein) (06/22/91)
In-Reply-To: message from MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET Where do you get a Dvorak keyboard layout? Do you just put it over your keyboard? Isn't that kind of clumsy? Is it better to just buy a Dvorak keyboard, or don't they make those for ADB (I didn't say Apple IIGS, because I'm sure the manufacturers don't even know they can be used with a GS. "What? The Apple IIGS can use ADB products? Yah, but you need to make a modification to the computer, and that voids your warranty, and makes all your other perihperals incompatible.")? Also, can you have two keyboards, a QWERTY and a Dvorak, attached to each other along the ADB line? By the way, did that obnoxious computer guy, John Dvorak, create the Dvorak keyboard? (A lot of questions!)
reeder@reed.UUCP (Doug Reeder) (06/22/91)
I type dvorak, and have encountered sevral problems not (due to society, no the Dvorak arrangement.) One problem is that it's different keyboards have slightly different locations for for some keys. On my IIc, I just use the switch on the keybord. On my mac startup disk, I took the KCHR resource from a Dvorak FKEY and edited it to be the same layout as the IIc. (I suspect the IIc's layout is slightly wrong.) On the DECstation at school, I had to unearch xmodmap. The big problem is at work I use sevral machines used by other people and switching from sholes to dvorak is not transparant enough. Ah, well, without computers I wouldn't get to type Dvorak at all. Doug Reeder USENET: ...!tektronix!reed!reeder Internet: reeder@reed.EDU BITNET: reeder@reed.BITNET I'm looking for a grad school or a job as a research assistant where I can work on tethers for space propulsion or robotics, in particular, walking machines. -- Doug Reeder USENET: ...!tektronix!reed!reeder Internet: reeder@reed.EDU BITNET: reeder@reed.BITNET I'm looking for a grad school or a job as a research assistant where I can work on tethers for space propulsion or robotics, in particular, walking machines.
bigd@pro-gsplus.cts.com (Dave Adams) (06/22/91)
In-Reply-To: message from gray@ibis.cs.umass.edu Mavis Beacon Teaches typing allows you to learn on either QWERTY or DVORAK keyboard. It's a pretty good program if you can spare the time to practice. Big Dave Adams | There are many times in life when you BigD@pro-gsplus.cts.com | just have to suck it up and drive on. America Online: Theodorick | So quit sniveling.--SFC Canfield
gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn) (06/23/91)
In article <1991Jun22.151804.13248@clark.edu> andy@pro-palmtree.cts.com (Andy Stein) writes: > Where do you get a Dvorak keyboard layout? Do you just put it over your >keyboard? You're not supposed to look at the keys, particularly the alphabetic keys, as you type. If you want, you can tape a keyboard chart near the computer. >... can you have two keyboards, a QWERTY and a Dvorak, attached to each >other along the ADB line? I don't think the IIGS ADB firmware would be happy. >By the way, did that obnoxious computer guy, John Dvorak, create the >Dvorak keyboard? No, and he didn't write the "New World" symphony either.
steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick) (06/23/91)
In-Reply-To: message from andy@pro-palmtree.cts.com I would assume that you would only have to buy a cover for the keyboard (maybe similar to those protective skins) to use the DVORAK keyboard layout. If you were really serious, you could pop the keys off and put them in the right layout (probably voiding your warranty). And yes, you can connect two keyboards (or any ADB devices) in the ADB line. I think there's a limit though because of power consumption. I have a friend that bought a Mac keyboard for his GS (I don't see what's wrong with the GS'?) and chains them together. It's quite convenient if 2 people use the computer at the same time. You can also connect two mice at the same time! Speaking of ADB.... does anybody know where you can buy ADB connectors (not cables)? I found that Super VHS connectors are the same as ADB, but It's hard to get a hold of those, too. _________________ / Steve \__________________________________________________________ | | | 1. ProLine: Steve@pro-hindugods | | 2. UUCP: crash!pro-hindugods!Steve | | 3. Internet: Steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com | | 4. ARPA: crash!pro-hindugods!Steve@nosc.mil | |____________________________________________________________________________/
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (06/23/91)
In article <1991Jun22.151804.13248@clark.edu> andy@pro-palmtree.cts.com (Andy Stein) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from MQUINN@UTCVM.BITNET > Where do you get a Dvorak keyboard layout? Do you just put it over your >keyboard? Isn't that kind of clumsy? Is it better to just buy a Dvorak I bet SOMEONE markets keycap stickers to put over the current keyboard layout.. If not, maybe I should! Maybe I could make some dough.. (but as someone else noted, yer not supposed to look at the keys! Unfortunately, eons ago in my 7th grade typing class, my typewriter with-no- letters-on-the-keys broke, and the only one they had left was one with letters on the keys so I got into being a finger-watcher. Yet, I have typed this whole parenthetical comment without looking at the keys, and everyone seems to think that I type like a bat out of hell, so... God, what rambling!) >Also, can you have two keyboards, a >QWERTY and a Dvorak, attached to each other along the ADB line? I am not positive of the following, but I am pretty sure that you CAN have two ADB keyboards connected to the same GS. However, they are electronically considered to be the SAME keyboard. Like you can hit CONTROL on one keyboard, and RESET on the other keyboard, to reboot. In a previous discussion on this topic, I think it was said that the Mac CAN tell the keyboards apart somehow. Hell, maybe you could on the GS if you didn't use built in tools or something. I'm just speculating. > By the way, did that obnoxious computer guy, John Dvorak, create the >Dvorak keyboard? No, Mr. IBM PC guy did not invent the Dvorak keyboard layout. He is distantly related to the keyboard Dvorak though. -- /unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu Apple IIGS Forever! unknown@cats.ucsc.edu\ |WANT to help get ULTIMA VI //e or GS written?-mail me. CHEAP CD info-mail me.| \ It's a Late Night World.... Of Love /
ericmcg@pnet91.cts.com (Eric Mcgillicuddy) (06/23/91)
>> By the way, did that obnoxious computer guy, John Dvorak, create the >>Dvorak keyboard? > > No, Mr. IBM PC guy did not invent the Dvorak keyboard layout. He is >distantly related to the keyboard Dvorak though. >-- >/unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu Apple IIGS Forever! unknown@cats.ucsc.edu\ Wasn't he the composer then? :) UUCP: bkj386!pnet91!ericmcg INET: ericmcg@pnet91.cts.com
z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Seed Testing Labortory) (06/24/91)
In article <1991Jun23.083446.19088@clark.edu> steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from andy@pro-palmtree.cts.com >And yes, you can connect two keyboards (or any ADB devices) in the ADB >line. I think there's a limit though because of power consumption. I have >a friend that bought a Mac keyboard for his GS (I don't see what's wrong >with the GS'?) and chains them together. It's quite convenient if 2 people >use the computer at the same time. You can also connect two mice at the >same time! > Uh, perhaps I missed something along the line, but I seem to remember the GS as having only one ADB port, and the mouse not having any place to plug another ADB device into. This means that only one mouse is capable of being attached without some sort of custom-built "Y" connector in the daisy chain. This can be done on a Mac, since it has the two ADB ports. Just being picky. If you do manage to attach two mice, you will find it doesn't really help anything. It can even get more confusing. Dan Sorenson z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu IIgs -- what more do you need? _________________________________________________________________________ "Beware of programmers carrying screwdrivers" -- unknown, but probably my boss _________________________________________________________________________
benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Paul Benson) (06/24/91)
To put your keyboard in Dvorak, just pop out the keys & replace 'em. Assuming of course that you have set the hard/soft switch to make the keyboard bus return Dvorak keys. Anyway, I would also have to argue against this, as some others have. One of the main reasons for my learning Dvorak was to get out of my bad habits of looking at the keyboard. This alone has increased my typing speed. Anyway, you may connect another keyboard to the ADB. There are 3 predefined devices for the ADB; a keyboard, a mouse, and a graphics tablet. Each device gets its own address, so in the case of a collision (in my case two mice) the last one polled gets another address. There are 16 addresses, but 5 are reserved, one is preset for each of the three types of devices, and the rest may be allocated to any type of device. So the max is 11 devices but you can only have 9 keyboards, or 9 mice, etc. Doesn't there exist an ADB modem for the mac? Also, it is possible to connect more than one mouse to the ADB because 3rd party vendors have 2 ADB ports on their products. I don't think that a Y-connector is 'legal'. It would work until a collision occured & then the bus would probably get confused. But with only 3 devices this should not be a problem. Pauley -- Paul 'BaJa' Benson Vanderbilt University GEnie: P.Benson1 Net: benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick) (06/25/91)
In-Reply-To: message from z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes: > This can be done on a Mac, since it has the two ADB ports. > Just being picky. If you do manage to attach two mice, you will find > it doesn't really help anything. It can even get more confusing. I did try it on a Mac SE (I think the only one of two macs that have 2 ADB ports) and the reason I did it _was_ to confuse my friend. It's pretty funny. Could you make a Y adapter for the ADB port (just connecting 2 female to 1 male directly)? or do you need special circuitry like an isolator? _________________ / Steve \__________________________________________________________ | N | | 1. ProLine: Steve@pro-hindugods 8 | | 2. UUCP: crash!pro-hindugods!Steve O | | 3. Internet: Steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com W | | 4. ARPA: crash!pro-hindugods!Steve@nosc.mil Y | |____________________________________________________________________________/
mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) (06/25/91)
In article <1991Jun24.233333.5301@clark.edu> steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu > >z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes: >> This can be done on a Mac, since it has the two ADB ports. >> Just being picky. If you do manage to attach two mice, you will find >> it doesn't really help anything. It can even get more confusing. > >I did try it on a Mac SE (I think the only one of two macs that have 2 ADB >ports) and the reason I did it _was_ to confuse my friend. It's pretty >funny. > >Could you make a Y adapter for the ADB port (just connecting 2 female to 1 >male directly)? or do you need special circuitry like an isolator? > I believe the Y-adapter is available through one of the smaller companies that advertises in A+/inCider. You might also want to look in a Mac mag since the ADB is an Apple Standard and there are more ADB devices (or so I hear) available for the Mac, which may make something like that a necessary add-on. BTW: Why don't you just tack the second keyboard onto the first and then hook up the mouse to that one? It is my understanding that the ADB will work with up to eight (?) devices, and it doesn't matter where they are hooked up, since it is one big bus. Sure, the Mac has two ports, but I think it sees devices hooked up to either on as being hooked up to the same bus. Mike
asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) (06/26/91)
In-Reply-To: message from steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com How can you connect two mice at the same time? UNless one is a TurboMouse... ---- ProLine: asong@pro-nbs Internet: asong@pro-nbs.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-nbs!asong ARPA: crash!pro-nbs!asong@nosc.mil
asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) (06/26/91)
In-Reply-To: message from benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu Re: Two mice... I think you can. In stores I have seen a Mac with an ADB keyboard, then a Kensington TurboMouse, then the Apple Mouse, and they all work fine. ---- ProLine: asong@pro-nbs Internet: asong@pro-nbs.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-nbs!asong ARPA: crash!pro-nbs!asong@nosc.mil
andy@pro-palmtree.cts.com (Andy Stein) (06/26/91)
In-Reply-To: message from z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu The Apple IIGS cannot connect more than one device to the keyboard if one is using the Apple mouse. But, if you own the TurboMouse ADB by Kensington, then you have another ADB port free, since it has two ADB ports. Also, I think there is some sort of an adaptor which allows you to connect two ADB devices to it. So, the limit is not with the Apple IIGS, but rather with the mouse you choose.
unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) (06/26/91)
In article <7497@vela.acs.oakland.edu> mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) writes: >>z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes: >>> This can be done on a Mac, since it has the two ADB ports. >>> Just being picky. If you do manage to attach two mice, you will find >>> it doesn't really help anything. It can even get more confusing. > >I believe the Y-adapter is available through one of the smaller companies >that advertises in A+/inCider. You might also want to look in a Mac mag >since the ADB is an Apple Standard and there are more ADB devices (or so >I hear) available for the Mac, which may make something like that a I'm being MONDO "anally retentive" about this I guess, but it seems if we pound this into people's heads enough, it may eventually sink in. (I'm kind of tired right now too, so I may sound a little harsher than I mean to) There most likely are more ADB devices --ADVERTIZED-- for the Mac, but there is no such thing as more ADB devices being -AVAILABLE- for the Mac. ADB is ADB.. Mac/GS it doesn't matter.. (except maybe drivers in the case of a scanner or some other weird thing that might be ADB).. but the HARDWARE PATHWAY is -EXACTLY- the same, so the ADB device doesn't care whether you're using it on the GS or a Mac. The same idea is 99.99999999% true about SCSI. SCSI is SCSI. Apparently there are fairly rare circumstances where something won't work, but you can be pretty certain about buying a "SCSI" drive and it working with your Mac or GS. >BTW: Why don't you just tack the second keyboard onto the first and then ^^^^^^^^ He said two mice. quantum leap week this week. -- /unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu Apple IIGS Forever! unknown@cats.ucsc.edu\ |WANT to help get ULTIMA VI //e or GS written?-mail me. CHEAP CD info-mail me.| \ It's a Late Night World.... Of Love /
steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick) (06/28/91)
In-Reply-To: message from asong@pro-nbs.cts.com asong@pro-nbs.cts.com (Andi Song) writes: > How can you connect two mice at the same time? UNless one is a > TurboMouse... I connected my mouse and a friends mouse to a Mac SE at the same time. The Mac SE has two ADB ports (which, in my opinion, is a great feature), but I'm sure you can make or get a "Y" adapter for ADB. _________________ / Steve \__________________________________________________________ | N | | 1. ProLine: Steve@pro-hindugods 8 | | 2. UUCP: crash!pro-hindugods!Steve O | | 3. Internet: Steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com W | | 4. ARPA: crash!pro-hindugods!Steve@nosc.mil Y | |____________________________________________________________________________/
steveb@pro-novapple.cts.com (Steve Breeding) (06/29/91)
In-Reply-To: message from steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com The ADB connectors can be ordered from: Advanced Electronic Support Products 1810 N.E. 144th St. North Miami, FL 33181 1-800-446-2377 1-305-944-7710 Hope this helps somebody... ---- ProLine: steveb@pro-novapple Internet: steveb@pro-novapple.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-novapple!steveb ARPA: crash!pro-novapple!steveb@nosc.mil
steveb@pro-novapple.cts.com (Steve Breeding) (06/29/91)
In-Reply-To: message from unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU > There most likely are more ADB devices --ADVERTIZED-- for the Mac, >but there is no such thing as more ADB devices being -AVAILABLE- for the Mac. >ADB is ADB.. Mac/GS it doesn't matter.. (except maybe drivers in the case of >a scanner or some other weird thing that might be ADB).. but the HARDWARE >PATHWAY is -EXACTLY- the same,ce doesn't care whether you're >usin Lousy PROLINE SYSTEM!!!! Anyway, that's not 100% true.. There's a few Mac devices that WON'T work on a //gs... Data Desk International 101 keyboard doesn't have a reset key!!!! Abaton's ProPoint sends random button clicks, wreaking havoc.. Note: This info was taken from the Feb 1990 Incider... We all know how accurate Incider is, now don't we???? (NOT!!!) ---- ProLine: steveb@pro-novapple Internet: steveb@pro-novapple.cts.com UUCP: crash!pro-novapple!steveb ARPA: crash!pro-novapple!steveb@nosc.mil