[net.space] No More Space Weapons Treaties!

dcn@ihuxl.UUCP (Dave Newkirk) (03/02/84)

	I agree with Judd Rogers that a space treaty would be very hard to
enforce, especially with the Soviets.  They have already referred to the
Shuttle as a space weapon, and they're hard at work building their own!
	I don't think we should sign any space weapons treaty, since space
weapons can reduce the chances of an ICBM hitting me.  There's already a treaty
banning nuclear weapons in space, and that leaves satellite killers and ABM
weapons.  I think the Soviets are getting worried about our growing space
weapons effort, and want to stop us before we gain an advantage.

						Dave Newkirk, ihnp4!ihuxl!dcn

richard@sequent.UUCP (03/04/84)

>>                                               ....  They have
>>  already referred to the Shuttle as a space weapon, and they're
>>  hard at work building their own!

If you don't believe the shuttle is a space weapon, you're pretty 
innocent.  What do you think our Pentagon boys are so interested
in it for?

"Death-rays don't kill people, people kill people."

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al@ames-lm.UUCP (Al Globus) (03/12/84)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
	I agree with Judd Rogers that a space treaty would be very hard to
enforce, especially with the Soviets.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Space treaties are not particularly hard to monitor.  Launches are easy to
spot and track although things can be hard to find once they lose themselves.
Enforcing any treaty with the Soviets is impossible since we can't 
physically force them to stop anything, we can only follow suit.   They
seem to keep their word pretty well though. 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
They have already referred to the
Shuttle as a space weapon, and they're hard at work building their own!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

		So what.  And bully for them on their shuttle.....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
	I don't think we should sign any space weapons treaty, since space
weapons can reduce the chances of an ICBM hitting me.  There's already a treaty
banning nuclear weapons in space, and that leaves satellite killers and ABM
weapons.  I think the Soviets are getting worried about our growing space
weapons effort, and want to stop us before we gain an advantage.

						Dave Newkirk, ihnp4!ihuxl!dcn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Soviets have an excellent record in keeping their treaties,
notwithstanding the blither blather in the media.  They actually seem
more into stoping this madness than we are.  Monitoring is very important
though, Russia cannot be trusted without independent verification.

Space weapons may reduce the chance of an ICBM hitting you Dave, but
they're useless against cruise missles, bombers, sub based
missles if you live near the coast, and (probably) half a dozen things
that are cooking in the labs.  Space weapons are not really effective
against nuclear bombs.  They are effective against space systems, which
include the shuttle, Ariane, space station, IRAS, every commercial booster,
future space colonies, etc., etc.

Another thing to add to your dreams: designs for 10 gigawatt space
solar power systems exist.  Hook those to space based laser weapons
and the time it takes to deliver a killing blow to a country drops
from the present 30 minutes to a few seconds.  Think about it.