lamport@SRC.DEC.COM (Leslie Lamport) (03/03/91)
To everyone other than whoever is in charge of this list: I'm sorry to send this message out to the whole mailing list, but I don't remember to whom it should be sent. ------- To whoever is in charge of this list: I have been receiving a small but steady stream of contentless messages, consisting mostly of administrative messages which, like this one, should not have gone out to the entire list. However, the last straw was a message I just received that apparently was an automatic "I'm not home" message generated by someone's mailer in response to a message sent to the list. I suppose that message was in turn sent out to that same person, whose mailer will then generate another "I'm not home" message, that will then be sent out to the list... This has made me realize that I do not want to belong to a mailing list that is not filtered by a human being. So, please remove me from the INFO-TeX list. Leslie Lamport
barr@TRIPLES.MATH.MCGILL.CA (Michael Barr) (03/04/91)
I have just received Leslie Lamport's message and I am beginning to feel the same. Additionally, I get everybody's, ``Please add me to the list'' message and all sorts of other garbage that shouldn't have been posted. Meantime, a memo that I thought was interesting and informative that I sent off didn't get posted and I have sent it to texhax. Michael Barr
FLOWERS@MEMSTVX1.BITNET (Harry Flowers) (03/05/91)
>To whoever is in charge of this list: > >I have been receiving a small but steady stream of contentless >messages, consisting mostly of administrative messages which, like this >one, should not have gone out to the entire list. This is life with unmoderated lists. I also belong to INFO-VAX, and they are somewhat less polite with people who send these requests to the list rather than the administrative address. Basically, the people who do it are ignorant of the correct procedures, and consequently look like idiots. With BITNET, administrative mail is sent to the LISTSERV. With Internet, it is usually sent to <list>-Request where "<list>" is the list name. I believe that either form will work with INFO-TeX, though the list owner seems to prefer that mail be sent to the LISTSERV address. The problem is not with the list owner, but the list users. To get the rapid turnaround time of an unmoderated list, you have to depend on your subscribers to behave in a civilized and polite list manner. Please don't blame the list owner. > However, the last >straw was a message I just received that apparently was an automatic >"I'm not home" message generated by someone's mailer in response to a >message sent to the list. I suppose that message was in turn sent out >to that same person, whose mailer will then generate another "I'm not >home" message, that will then be sent out to the list... If "vacation" or other automated response mail is employed, you should always unsubscribe to any lists first. One way to cut down on this is by not having the return address as the list address, a (bad?) change that was recently made. Then, the senders of the messages are usually annoyed instead of the entire list. Also, having responses go to the poster and having the poster summarize them generally works better, esp. if the original problem is of limited general interest. >This has made me realize that I do not want to belong to a mailing >list that is not filtered by a human being. So, please remove me from >the INFO-TeX list. This is an example of an administrative request being made to the list instead of the administrative address(es). Since you are not tolerant of like requests, moderated lists or digests (like TeXHaX) would probably better suit you. But I'll miss possibly reading responses from: >Leslie Lamport Thanks for LaTeX. Even if you won't say how to pronounce it... ;-) ___ ___ _____ ___ ___ Harry Flowers, Tech Support, Memphis State University | \/ | / ____\ | | | | 112 Admin Building | Domain: FLOWERS@MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU | \ / | \____ \ | |_| | Memphis, TN 38152 | Bitnet: FLOWERS@MEMSTVX1 |_|\/|_| \_____/ \_____/ Ph: (901) 678-2663 | TBRnet: 7171::FLOWERS
riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm) (03/06/91)
My apologies for taking advantage of your posting on another subject, but I thought that you might be able to help me with what is probably a trivial problem (but I am a LaTeX neophyte..). I have started to use emTeX because I was having memory problems with my ArborTeX installation. But since I want to use the fonts msxm and msym, I haven't been able to use the emTeX HP printer driver. This screws things up since I guess the emTeX compiler calls for certain fonts which are not in the ArborTeX package. Do you know how to get the emTeX HPLJ driver to use msxm and msym? I'm of course using the fli font files that come with emTeX. Sorry to bother you, but I would greatly appreciate some advice if you know the answer.... Carl Riehm.
A8131DAL@AWIUNI11.BITNET (Peter Schmitt) (03/06/91)
On Tue, 5 Mar 91 19:17:34 EST Carl Riehm said: >problem (but I am a LaTeX neophyte..). I have started to use emTeX because >I was having memory problems with my ArborTeX installation. But since I want >to use the fonts msxm and msym, I haven't been able to use the emTeX HP >printer driver. This screws things up since I guess the emTeX compiler calls >for certain fonts which are not in the ArborTeX package. Do you know how >to get the emTeX HPLJ driver to use msxm and msym? I'm of course using the >fli font files that come with emTeX. Sorry to bother you, but I would >greatly appreciate some advice if you know the answer.... Carl Riehm. It does not depend on emTeX or any other implementation which font-files are used - it only depends on the fonts you use in your TeX-Texts (but of course this choice depends on the Macro-Package you use - therefore, if you use the format file supplied with emTeX other fonts may be used than by previous ones; e.g. cmr-Fonts instead of amr-Fonts) If the printer driver does not find a some .PK-File then (probably) because it does not know its location. You will have to set the path either using a commandline parameter, or a .CNF-File or by setting the environment-variable (as described in the documentation), or you may add the files to your font- library. Hope this helps Peter
garyk@SOPHIE.MSCS.MU.EDU (Gary Krenz) (03/10/91)
In article <9103060017.AA09130@maccs.DCSS.McMaster.CA> you write: >My apologies for taking advantage of your posting on another subject, but >I thought that you might be able to help me with what is probably a trivial >problem (but I am a LaTeX neophyte..). I have started to use emTeX because >I was having memory problems with my ArborTeX installation. But since I want >to use the fonts msxm and msym, I haven't been able to use the emTeX HP >printer driver. This screws things up since I guess the emTeX compiler calls >for certain fonts which are not in the ArborTeX package. Do you know how >to get the emTeX HPLJ driver to use msxm and msym? I'm of course using the >fli font files that come with emTeX. Sorry to bother you, but I would >greatly appreciate some advice if you know the answer.... Carl Riehm. First, as I understand, msxm and msym as the old AMS symbol fonts. But then I'm also a TeX neophyte. I'm not using msxm or msym and don't plan on using them, so this might not be much help to you but ... Yesterday I was setting up an AT&T 6300 to do AMSTeX (version 2.0) via emTeX. I had no difficulty setting it up using the lj fonts for screen previewing and have printed amsguide.tex via emTeX and dvips to an AppleLaser Writer (postscript). I also plan on trying AMSLaTeX if I don't run out of disk space on this particular machine. (... emTeX and dvips are *great* and is *so* easy to install, I just wish I had room on a C: drive once, it would be even easier, sigh!). I did have to move some of 300dpi pk files from a SPARC to a pixel.lj subdirectory on the AT&T. I plan to build font families for the new AMSfonts (version 2) read that as Real Soon Now :-) When I TeXed the userdoc for the AMSfonts, I found I was short the wncyr* pk fonts as well as some others. Since I spent a small part of my Christmas generating 85dpi screen fonts (X *.ff and *.fb fonts for xtex on a Sun SPARC 1+) I wasn't excited to use mf again. I just went to e-math.ams.com to pick up the missing fonts. Carl, if you are interested in what I've done so far, please E-MAIL me at: garyk@sophie.mscs.mu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Gary Krenz : Voice: 414-288-6345 : : Department of Mathematics, : 414-288-7573 (Department): : Statistics and Computer Science : FAX: 414-288-5472 (Department): : Marquette University : Internet: garyk@sophie.mscs.mu.edu : : Milwaukee, Wisconsin USA 53233 : : -------------------------------------------------------------------------
bharat@cf-cm.computing-maths.cardiff.ac.uk (Bharat Mediratta) (03/12/91)
In article <SQUASH.91Mar10211016@heat.math.ufl.edu> squash@math.ufl.edu (Jonathan King) writes: > Is any talented individual interested in writing a Unix "vacation >mailer" program which > 1) Keeps track of the addresses it responds to, and never responds > to the same address twice. > 2) Takes as an argument a list of address -or better, a regular > expression, of Addresses\Subjects NOT to respond to... such as: > "mailing list" addresses, > MAILER-DAEMON "Returned mail: User unknown" messages, > automatic "I'm not home" messages > 3) Put a marker in the Subject: line, or create a special header > indicating that this mail-reply is automatically generated. > >A fancier version of the program might have > 4) An Address/Subject regular-expression/(file or command) table. >Depending on the Address or Subject matter of the incoming mail, the >VacationProgram automatically files the message in a particular mail >file. Or runs a particular command on the message. (In this instance, >I am thinking of the VacationProgram as being written in Emacs Lisp >and working inside of an Emacs which was left running -probably not >practical unless you have your own workstation.) > I have a particular need for a program like this (due to my impending leave over Easter Break.) I am willing to write a program to handle the above four requests (although I would write it as a csh script for my .forward, not in Emacs Lisp) but I would like to see if anybody else has a package that can handle this. Currently, I have a mail sorter that would handle request #4 quite neatly, and adding numbers 1-3 would be a piece of cake. >PS> I've put Followup:comp.emacs as I'm thinking the above program >might be most easily written in Emacs Lisp. If you feel my choice >inappropriate, I suggest Followup:comp.unix.wizards I think this should stay in comp.unix.wizards. Cheers! Bharat -- | Bharat Mediratta | JANET: bharat@cm.cf.ac.uk | +--------------------+ UUNET: bharat%cm.cf.ac.uk%cunyvm.cuny.edu@uunet.uucp | |On a clear disk... | uk.co: bharat%cm.cf.ac.uk%cunyvm.cuny.edu%uunet.uucp@ukc| |you can seek forever| UUCP: ...!uunet!cunym.cuny.edu!cm.cf.ac.uk!bharat |
mayer@gmdzi.gmd.de (Hans Mayer) (03/27/91)
From article <SQUASH.91Mar10211016@heat.math.ufl.edu>, by squash@math.ufl.edu (Jonathan King):
^^^^^^^
...someone is duplicating messages!
- Hans
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