[net.space] Lunar artillery

David.Smith@cmu-cs-ius.arpa (03/31/84)

That story about the Russians and Americans on the moon sounds a little
far-fetched.  I would assume that they would have done the targeting well
enough to land the shells pretty close to the target.  But if they fired
a shell off at orbital velocity, any elevation in the firing angle would
cause the orbit to intersect the ground.  The shell would come back at
the same velocity vector at which it had left, so it would have to come
out of the ground.

Ian%SRI-NIC@sri-unix.UUCP (04/01/84)

From:  Ian Macky <Ian@SRI-NIC>

I seem to remember that the projectiles the Americans and Russians
were firing at each other were high-velocity rifle rounds, not some
sort of heavy artillery, which is why they were fired parallel to the
ground, and so were able to make it all the way around and sneak up
from behind.

jlg@lanl-a.UUCP (04/07/84)

Even if the shells were fired parallel to the ground (this able to orbit), they
still wouldn't come back to launch point (not for a long while anyway).  The
reason is that the moon turns under the orbiting projectile.  If you have
ever watched the ground track projections of LEO vehicles, you will have 
noticed that the orbit seem to precess around the planet.  The only way 
to avoid this is to have an orbital period that is an integral multiple 
(or divisor) of the planets rotation period.  A surface orbit of the moon
does not meet this requirement.  (Well, maybe they were on the lunar equator
firing exactly east or west!)