eijkhout@s41.csrd.uiuc.edu (Victor Eijkhout) (05/27/91)
Whatever text processor the New York Times uses
will occasionally produce words that do-
n't hyphenate correctly. If you catch my drift.
Time for TeX!
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Victor.feustel@netcom.COM (David Feustel) (05/27/91)
Proofreading and spelling aren't what they used to be at the NYTIMES either. -- David Feustel, 1930 Curdes Ave, Fort Wayne, IN 46805, (219) 482-9631 EMAIL: feustel@netcom.com or feustel@cvax.ipfw.indiana.edu
myers@ut-emx.uucp (Eric Myers) (05/31/91)
In article <1991May26.205830.5267@csrd.uiuc.edu> eijkhout@s41.csrd.uiuc.edu (Victor Eijkhout) writes: > >Whatever text processor the New York Times uses >will occasionally produce words that do- >n't hyphenate correctly. If you catch my drift. > >Time for TeX! Since you have brought the subject up... Ever since installing TeX 3.0 on my SparcStation I have gotten the impression that there is something wrong with the hyphenation in 3.0. It seems to break words incorrectly more often. Often I find it breaking a word with only the last letter on the following line. My question: Is there a difference in hyphenation between TeX 3.0 and 2.9x (which I was happy with) or is it my imagination? -- Eric Myers "If God had intended for man to fly He would have given us the brains to build airplanes." Center for Relativity, Department of Physics, University of Texas at Austin myers@emx.utexas.edu | myers@utaphy.bitnet | myers@ut-emx.UUCP
cet1@cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson) (05/31/91)
In article <49725@ut-emx.uucp> myers@ut-emx.uucp (Eric Myers) writes: > >Since you have brought the subject up... Ever since installing >TeX 3.0 on my SparcStation I have gotten the impression that >there is something wrong with the hyphenation in 3.0. >It seems to break words incorrectly more often. Often I find >it breaking a word with only the last letter on the following line. > >My question: Is there a difference in hyphenation between TeX 3.0 >and 2.9x (which I was happy with) or is it my imagination? > With probability 99.9%: you have installed it wrong, by upgrading the program to TeX 3.0 without upgrading plain.tex. Moral: don't do partial upgrades. TeX 3.0, with the correct plain.tex and hyphen.tex, produces hyphenation results identical to those from TeX versions to 2.991. TeX 2.992 and (to a lesser extent) 2.993, which were beta-releases of TeX 3.0, did have some variations in this area, though nothing like as gross as the effects you report above (which are the results of not setting \lefthyphenmin and \righthyphenmin correctly). Chris Thompson JANET: cet1@uk.ac.cam.phx Internet: cet1%phx.cam.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
eijkhout@s41.csrd.uiuc.edu (Victor Eijkhout) (05/31/91)
myers@ut-emx.uucp (Eric Myers) writes: >Since you have brought the subject up... Ever since installing >TeX 3.0 on my SparcStation I have gotten the impression that >there is something wrong with the hyphenation in 3.0. >It seems to break words incorrectly more often. Often I find >it breaking a word with only the last letter on the following line. Hyphenation changed in the transition from TeX2.* to 3.0. Two parameters \lefthyphenmin and \righthyphenmin were added, that described the minimum number of characters allowed before and after the hyphenation point. In TeX2.* these values were 2 and 3 hardwired. What you probably did was take a plain.tex file (and Eric, I know you wrote your own format, so maybe you have your own vrsion of plain.tex) compatible with 2.* and use it for 3.*. There is a new version of plain.tex that contains the default settings \lefthyphenmin=2 \righthyphenmin=3. Furthermore it contains the macros \topglue and \newlanguage. (and that's about all I remember. dig up the files and do a diff for the rest.) Victor.
jeffrey@cs.chalmers.se (Alan Jeffrey) (06/01/91)
In article <1991May26.205830.5267@csrd.uiuc.edu> eijkhout@s41.csrd.uiuc.edu (Victor Eijkhout) writes: > >Whatever text processor the New York Times uses >will occasionally produce words that do- >n't hyphenate correctly. If you catch my drift. > >Time for TeX! Except that I managed to get that hyphenation out of TeX once. I'd just upgraded LaTeX to the new font selection scheme, and I thought I might as well include some new hyphenation tables while I was at it. So I loaded in the Swedish, Spanish and French hyphenation tables (with the necessary incantations to \language) and all was fine and well. Well, all was fine and well until I spotted the word `do- n't' in a document... Much searching later I found: % The FPlain TeX hyphenation tables [NOT TO BE CHANGED IN ANY WAY!] \lccode`\'= 39 So now our localinit.tex includes the lines \input fhyph \lccode`\'=0 So maybe the NYT is using TeX... Alan. -- Alan Jeffrey Tel: +46 31 72 10 98 jeffrey@cs.chalmers.se Department of Computer Sciences, Chalmers University, Gothenburg, Sweden