[comp.text.tex] TeX = as seen by a reviewer of the NeXT cube

nevai@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) (06/13/91)

This is serious: a quotation form an article which will appear in the June
issue of Microtimes, a local California magazine.

The NeXT and Former King (The Boy Who Cried, "Insanely Great!")

by John Perry Barlow Thursday, May 30, 1991


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TEX.  Probably named after the macho dude who wrote it. This is page layout
and document processing for real men. Incredibly rich and capable. Also
incredibly difficult.
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barry@joshua.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) (06/13/91)

In article <1991Jun13.004311.27226@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu> nevai@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
>This is serious: a quotation form an article which will appear in the June
>issue of Microtimes, a local California magazine.
>
>The NeXT and Former King (The Boy Who Cried, "Insanely Great!")
>by John Perry Barlow Thursday, May 30, 1991
>***************************************************************************
>TEX.  Probably named after the macho dude who wrote it. This is page layout
>and document processing for real men. Incredibly rich and capable. Also
>incredibly difficult.
>***************************************************************************


Anyone who thinks it is pronounced "teks" should not be taken too
seriously. Also, LaTeX (thats "lay-tek" :-) is equally powerful
but far easier to use---not too hard at all, really, especially with the
excellent manual by Leslie Lamport.
Barry Merriman
UCLA Dept. of Math
UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research
barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet)   barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (NeXTMail)

jpl1@ra.MsState.Edu (Jean P. Legrand) (06/14/91)

barry@joshua.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes:
>>***************************************************************************
>>TEX.  Probably named after the macho dude who wrote it. This is page layout
>>and document processing for real men. Incredibly rich and capable. Also
>>incredibly difficult.
>>***************************************************************************


>Anyone who thinks it is pronounced "teks" should not be taken too
>seriously. Also, LaTeX (thats "lay-tek" :-) is equally powerful
>but far easier to use---not too hard at all, really, especially with the
>excellent manual by Leslie Lamport.
>Barry Merriman

Maybe we should take him seriously.  I personally would like to see even
wider acceptance of TeX. 1) because it means more ancillary support
products, and 2) because I know it to be the best way to put text on a
page.  However, there are a lot of uninformed people who have never
tried TeX BUT THEY ARE WRITING CRITICAL REVIEWS OF IT--AND THEY ARE
BEING BELIEVED!!.

Oh, and one more thing, I have worked with TeX and LaTeX for 10 years
and I don't think LaTeX is easier.  Not in the long run.

jtchew@csa1.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) (06/15/91)

>>document processing for real men. Incredibly rich and capable. Also
>>incredibly difficult.

>Anyone who thinks it is pronounced "teks" should not be taken too
>seriously.

Knuth, in "TeX and Metafont: New Directions in Typesetting" (American
Mathematical Society and Digital Press, 1979, p. 4), has this to say:

        <1> The name of the game
        English words like "technology" stem from a Greek
        root beginning with the letters {tau, epsilon, chi}...
        and this same Greek word means art as well as
        technology.  Hence the name TEX, which is an upper-
        case form of {tau, epsilon, chi}.

        Insiders pronounce the {chi} of TEX as a Greek chi,
        not as an "x," so that TEX rimes with blecchhh.
        It's the "ch" sound in Scottish words like loch
        or German words like ach; it's a Spanish "j" and
        a Russian "kh." When you say it properly to your
        computer, the terminal may become slightly moist.

        On the other hand, you might find it more comfortable
        to pronounce TEX as a Texan would and to shrug off
        all this high-falutin' nonsense about beauty and
        quality. Go ahead and do what you want; your
        computer won't mind.

So wrote its inventor on the lone prairie of Palo Alto.  Yippie ki-yo ki-yay.

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"

eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) (06/15/91)

In article <1991Jun13.004311.27226@zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu>
	nevai@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai) writes:
>This is serious: a quotation form an article which will appear in the June
>issue of Microtimes, a local California magazine.

MicroTimes publishes separate Northern California and Southern
California editions on a staggered schedule.  It's not in the
Northern June issue.

					-=EPS=-

jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) (06/17/91)

I'm posting the following at the request of a fellow netter who
can't get onto comp.text.tex.

>From: bbeeton <BNB@MATH.AMS.COM>
>your citation of knuth's statement in "tex and metafont: new
>directions ..." is unfortunatly out of date.  that was written
>before he was aware that honeywell had registered the trademark
>"TEX" ("pronounced tecks", according to "the texbook", p. 1).

>the first chapter in the later book (also entitled "the name of
>the game") explains why TeX shouldn't be confused with TEX.
>it's very important to keep that distinction clear -- honeywell
>could still send lawyers out and enjoin the tex community from
>using the term if it's not.  we're able to use the name only
>because the stature of donald e. knuth in the computer field
>was great enough that someone (probably not a lawyer) recognized
>that it would be good pr to settle on a gentlemen's agreement.

>things would have been very much different, i think, if "our"
>tex had been written by john q. nobody.

>                                -- barbara beeton
>                                   editor, tugboat
>                                   also, employee of ams, to whom
>                                   knuth has assigned the trademark

As for me, I'm going over to rec.humor to see if anyone has posted any good 
lawyer jokes lately.  Or maybe I'll just go downtown and have a few drinks
before "martini" becomes a registered trademark.  Followup to comp.sys.next
or, perhaps, misc.civilization.decline-and-fall.

Needless to say, my employer is indemnified from, confounded by, and
oblivious to the opinions stated hereintofore. In hoc marca registrada 
vinces, forever and ever, Amen.