[comp.periphs.scsi] How big is a disk "Mbyte" or "MByte"?

paul@.Solbourne.COM (Paul Orland) (08/03/90)

>In article <9471> Eric Smith at goofy.Apple.COM writes:
>In article <134023.285> paul@paul.Solbourne.COM >(Paul Orland)(Me) writes:
>> 
>> As discussed in this forum previously, this is *not* true with disk 
>>drives.
>> 1 Megabyte of disk space = 1,000,000 bytes (10^6), not 1024^2.
>
>As discussed in this forum previously, there is no consensus as to
>whether a magabyte of disk space is 1000^2 or 1024^2 bytes, but for
>consistency with RAM most people seem to use 1024^2.  If you talk about
>1K of disk space, you probably mean 1024 bytes, since 1024 probably has
>a simple ratio to your sector size, whereas 1000 probably doesn't.  If
>you start from that reasoning, a megabyte of disk space is either
>1024*1024 or 1024*1000.  The latter doesn't seem to make much sense.
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I should of known better than to post information to this forum without
backing it up. How 'bout some facts.

The numbers in the following examples are taken directly from
manufacturers specifications or calculated directly from numbers given.

Example 1:	Maxtor XT-4380S Disk Drive 

	Unformatted Capacity/Drive	= 384.46 "Mbytes"
	Unformatted Capacity/Track 	= 20,940 Bytes
	Tracks/drive			= 18,360

	18360 * 20940 = 384458400

	If a "Mbyte" = 1024*1024, Drive Capacity = 366.65 <> 384.46
	If a "Mbyte" = 1024*1000, Drive Capacity = 375.45 <> 384.46
	If a "Mbyte" = 1000*1000, Drive Capacity = 384.46 =  384.46

So, a Maxtor unformatted "Mbyte" is = 1000*1000 or 10^6.

Example 2:	Hitachi DK514C-38 Disk Drive 

	Formatted Capacity/Drive	= 321.8 "MBytes"
	Formatted Capacity/Track 	= 25,600 Bytes
	User Tracks/drive		= 898*14=12572

	12572 * 256000 = 321843200

	If a "MByte" = 1024*1024, Drive Capacity = 306.93 <> 321.8
	If a "MByte" = 1024*1000, Drive Capacity = 314.30 <> 321.8
	If a "MByte" = 1000*1000, Drive Capacity = 321.84 =  321.8

So, a Hitachi formatted "MByte" is = 1000*1000 or 10^6.

Every drive specification I have seen follows these conventions.
Have you seen any that don't?

So don't you go trying to copy your 100 Mbytes of ram onto a 100 Mbyte
disk anytime soon :-).


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wschmidt%decefix@decefix.iao.fhg.de (Wolfram Schmidt) (08/03/90)

Quantum defines MB as 1,000,000 Bytes

wschmidt@iao.fhg.de

josef@nixpbe.UUCP (Moellers) (08/09/90)

>In article <9471> Eric Smith at goofy.Apple.COM writes:
>In article <134023.285> paul@paul.Solbourne.COM >(Paul Orland)(Me) writes:
>> 
>> As discussed in this forum previously, this is *not* true with disk 
>>drives.
>> 1 Megabyte of disk space = 1,000,000 bytes (10^6), not 1024^2.
>
>As discussed in this forum previously, there is no consensus as to
>whether a magabyte of disk space is 1000^2 or 1024^2 bytes, but for
>consistency with RAM most people seem to use 1024^2.  If you talk about
>1K of disk space, you probably mean 1024 bytes, since 1024 probably has
>a simple ratio to your sector size, whereas 1000 probably doesn't.  If
>you start from that reasoning, a megabyte of disk space is either
>1024*1024 or 1024*1000.  The latter doesn't seem to make much sense.

Well, compare the figures:
	A disk drive with a capacity of 162529280 bytes is either
	- 162.5 MBytes (where 1MB = 10^6 Bytes) or
	- 155 MBytes (where 1MB = 1024^2 Bytes).
Now, if You read "Our disk drive has 162.5 MB capacity", doesn't that
sound better that "Our disk drive has 155 MB capacity"?
There's definitely a 7.5 MBytes difference in these figures!

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