rja@edison.cho.ge.com (rja) (06/09/90)
Borland's upgrades to Turbo Debugger (now version 2.0) is shipping and is in local stores and we have received upgrade copies ordered about 3 weeks back. Likewise the upgrade to Turbo C 2.0 (now Turbo C++ 1.0) is shipping and is in local stores and we have received copies ordered about 3 weeks ago. Local stores includes SoftWarehouse in McLean, VA which has a newspaper ad in today's Washington Post for TC++.
streich@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Mark Streich) (06/10/90)
In article rja <rja@edison.cho.ge.com> writes: >Borland's upgrades to Turbo Debugger (now version 2.0) is shipping Does anyone who is "in the know" know if TD 2.0 will work with an upcoming Turbo Pascal version? I hate upgrading one month for one language and having to upgrade the next for another language. Mark Streich streich@tigger.colorado.edu
bwilliam%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Bruce R. Williams) (06/10/90)
In article <9006091405.AA18563@edison.CHO.GE.COM> rja <rja@edison.cho.ge.com> writes: > [...] >Likewise the upgrade to Turbo C 2.0 (now Turbo C++ 1.0) is shipping >and is in local stores and we have received copies ordered about >3 weeks ago. I don't believe you'd call C++ 1.0 an upgrade to C 2.0... C and C++ are two different creatures altogether! -Bruce ---- Bruce R. Williams "Computer Science is not about computers, University of Utah any more than astronomy is about telescopes" (bwilliam@peruvian.utah.edu) - Edgar Dijkstra
ergo@netcom.UUCP (Isaac Rabinovitch) (06/10/90)
In <9006091405.AA18563@edison.CHO.GE.COM> rja@edison.cho.ge.com (rja) writes: >Likewise the upgrade to Turbo C 2.0 (now Turbo C++ 1.0) is shipping Correction. Plain Turbo C is still available, at a reduced price even. Turbo C Professional is gone, but that was just a product bundle, and you can still buy the pieces separately.
jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Steven R. Jacobs) (06/11/90)
In article <22069@boulder.Colorado.EDU> streich@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Mark Streich) writes: >In article rja <rja@edison.cho.ge.com> writes: >>Borland's upgrades to Turbo Debugger (now version 2.0) is shipping > > Does anyone who is "in the know" know if TD 2.0 will work with an upcoming > Turbo Pascal version? I hate upgrading one month for one language and having > to upgrade the next for another language. From the Turbo Debugger 2.0 User's Guide: "To use Turbo Debugger with Borland products, you must have Turbo Pascal 5.0 or later, Turbo C 2.0, Turbo C++, or Turbo Assembler 1.0 or later." The "features" list explicitly mentions support for Turbo Pascal 5.5, which is a fairly recent addition to the Borland line. -- Steve Jacobs ({bellcore,hplabs,uunet}!utah-cs!jacobs, jacobs@cs.utah.edu)
noren@dinl.uucp (Charles Noren) (06/11/90)
<JACOBS.90Jun10133421@cmos.cs.utah.edu> Sender: Reply-To: noren@dinl.UUCP (Charles Noren) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Martin Marietta I&CS, Denver CO. Keywords: In article <JACOBS.90Jun10133421@cmos.cs.utah.edu> jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Steven R. Jacobs) writes: >"To use Turbo Debugger with Borland products, you must have Turbo >Pascal 5.0 or later, Turbo C 2.0, Turbo C++, or Turbo Assembler 1.0 >or later." > >The "features" list explicitly mentions support for Turbo Pascal 5.5, >which is a fairly recent addition to the Borland line. A word of caution. According to one person I talked with at Borland on their support line, the latest Turbo Debugger (TD) will not work with Turbo Pascal (TP) 5.5. Appearently the TD shiped with TC 2.0 will work. The moral, if you have TP 5.5, don't throw away your old copy of TD (or if you recently bought a copy of TP only and have TC professional, don't throw away the old TD) until you at least verify yourself or from Borland the new TD will work with your TP. -- Chuck Noren NET: ncar!dinl!noren US-MAIL: Martin Marietta I&CS, MS XL8058, P.O. Box 1260, Denver, CO 80201-1260 Phone: (303) 971-7930
toma@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) (06/12/90)
In article <1990Jun9.131437.14721@hellgate.utah.edu> bwilliam%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Bruce R. Williams) writes: >In article <9006091405.AA18563@edison.CHO.GE.COM> rja <rja@edison.cho.ge.com> writes: >> [...] >>Likewise the upgrade to Turbo C 2.0 (now Turbo C++ 1.0) is shipping > I don't believe you'd call C++ 1.0 an upgrade to C 2.0... C and C++ >are two different creatures altogether! But "Turbo C++ 1.0" *is* a direct "plug-in" replacement for "Turbo C 2.0". You can simply toss Turbo C 2.0 away because the C++ compiler will complile the C programs. (Although it is about 15% slower doing so.) Tom Almy toma@tekgvs.labs.tek.com Standard Disclaimers Apply
bwilliam%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Bruce R. Williams) (06/12/90)
In Article 1921 toma@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) writes: >But "Turbo C++ 1.0" *is* a direct "plug-in" replacement for "Turbo C 2.0". >You can simply toss Turbo C 2.0 away because the C++ compiler will complile >the C programs. (Although it is about 15% slower doing so.) > >Tom Almy >toma@tekgvs.labs.tek.com >Standard Disclaimers Apply Hmmmm, Ok. A couple of people with C++ have e-mailed me saying that Turbo C++ will compile a C program... however, most indicate that the code generated is not the same. (One said he thought it was better, another said the opposite). This begs the question: Is Turbo C++ 1.0 an UPGRADE/REPLACEMENT to Turbo C 2.0 ??? The question is especially pertinent to those of us who just purchased the latter. An aside: When it's said that C++ will compile C code, does that mean that it treats it as a C++ program just with no C++ specific code? ...or does it recognize it as a C program? Thanks in advance for the info! -Bruce ---- Bruce R. Williams "Computer Science is not about computers, University of Utah any more than astronomy is about telescopes" (bwilliam@peruvian.utah.edu) - Edgar Dijkstra
hardin@hpindda.HP.COM (John Hardin) (06/12/90)
albert@endor.harvard.edu (David Albert) writes: > >>.. I did receive an offer to get C++ based on my owning Turbo Pascal! > >>(BTW, that costs $175 instead of the $125 for Turbo C owners). > > Since I just purchased C++ from Egghead for $99, these upgrade > offers (with or without complete manual sets) do not sound > particularly good. ---------- The $125 upgrade offer is for the Turbo C++ Professional package, which includes the assembler, debugger, and profiler. I think the $99 C++ to which you refer is only the Turbo C++, not the professional package. Getting the Tools package for only $26 more isn't too bad a deal. John Hardin hardin@hpindgh.hp.com ----------
hardin@hpindda.HP.COM (John Hardin) (06/12/90)
bwilliam%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Bruce R. Williams) writes: > I don't believe you'd call C++ 1.0 an upgrade to C 2.0... C and C++ > are two different creatures altogether! ---------- Borland called it an 'UPGRADE' on the form they sent out to Turbo C owners offering the special prices for C++ and the Professional package. The C++ package also includes the C compiler. (In the default configuration it compiles xxx.c with the C compiler and xxx.cpp with the C++ compiler.) Also, the 'upgrade' C++ Pro package is not the same as the one you would get if you bought it from a dealer. It is missing a couple of manuals for TASM that had only minor changes from the previous version. John Hardin hardin@hpindgh.hp.com ------
robinson@cs.dal.ca (John Robinson) (06/12/90)
In article <1990Jun11.152443.22424@hellgate.utah.edu> bwilliam%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Bruce R. Williams) writes: > >In Article 1921 toma@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) writes: > >Hmmmm, Ok. A couple of people with C++ have e-mailed me saying that >Turbo C++ will compile a C program... however, most indicate that the >code generated is not the same. (One said he thought it was better, >another said the opposite). This begs the question: > > Is Turbo C++ 1.0 an UPGRADE/REPLACEMENT to Turbo C 2.0 ??? > Borland has already answered your question. If Turbo C++ 1.0 was a replacement, it would probably been called Turbo C 2.5 (or 3.0). -- ********************* Be sure to see Middle-age John Robinson DoD #0069 Mutant Ninja Reganites robinson@ac.dal.ca x=rx(1-x) ==> Chaos Staring Oliver North robinson@cs.dal.ca 902-494-1779 Comming soon! Don't miss it!
hardin@hpindda.HP.COM (John Hardin) (06/13/90)
bwilliam%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Bruce R. Williams) writes: > An aside: When it's said that C++ will compile C code, does that mean > that it treats it as a C++ program just with no C++ specific code? > ...or does it recognize it as a C program? ---------- Turbo C++ treats C programs as C. It tells which compiler to use by looking at the file extension ( X.C is C, X.CPP is C++). I tried compiling an X.C program that contained C++ constructs and got all sorts of errors. Renamed it to X.CPP and it compiled correctly. John Hardin hardin@hpindgh.hp.com -------