[bit.listserv.allmusic] time

MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET (02/05/90)

This is not a flame, please take no offense.  But every once in a while, I am
compelled to just say No.  Friday R_GELINA said "music is the one art form
that would not exist without time, more specifically the movement of time."
My quarrel is with the phrase "the one art form".  There are others; drama being
an obvious counter-example.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University

R_GELINA@UNHH.BITNET (02/06/90)

J.Mcintyre: What I meant by saying that music is the one art form that depends
on time is this:  Music is wholly dependant, AT IT'S CORE, on the movement of
time. Now obviously we as humans cannot be released from the movement of time, a
nd so, yes, other art forms such as drama do "move" in time.  But I think
other art forms are not time-oriented, as music is (although some modernist
art, such as a funnel steadily dripping water, are dependant on, and are
pointing to, the movement of time). I think maybe the word "one" may imply
too much; what I meant was that music is THE art form that ALWAYS depends on
time, and cannot escape it's grasp without ceasing to be music. Other art
forms may act in similar ways at times, but again I don't believe it is at
their core. I hope this makes sense.........

                                               HD

ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET (Tim Johnson) (02/06/90)

I would say that literature also requires time.  While it
in itself exists without time, its appreciation requires
sequence and time.  It is an inherent part of literature
in the same exact way sequence and time are an inherent
part of literature.
                           -Tim

ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET (Tim Johnson) (02/06/90)

>I would say that literature also requires time.  While it
>in itself exists without time, its appreciation requires
>sequence and time.  It is an inherent part of literature
>in the same exact way sequence and time are an inherent
>part of literature.
>                           -Tim

  Whoops - should read "same exact way sequence and time are an
inherent part of MUSIC"   Sorry.  Fingers outraced my brain.

                                                -T

SEG92@GENESEO.BITNET (the Talking Drum) (02/06/90)

HD:
Nice work socrates.
No, really I like it.
--Talking drum