KRENTZ_MIC@CTSTATEU.BITNET (Micki 'KRAZY' Krentz) (02/08/90)
I agree! Why, oh why? If the instrument is a C instrument, why is
first position Bb on the overtone series? I truly think that is KRAZY!
BTW, there is a valve trombone in existance. Somebody in my class
(a trumpet player no less, what nerve :) ), has one. The professor told him
that he needed to get his hands on a slide trombone...
incredible, ain't it? :)
---Michele---GWO101@URIACC.BITNET (Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)) (02/08/90)
We have reached agreement here. Trombone, totally useless. "76 drum sets
for the big parade, and a 101 electric guitars right behind..." Oh, there is
also a slide/valve trombone. Maynard Ferguson has one. I think it is called
a "Superbone." Holton makes it.
- Drummer -UUCJEFF@ECNCDC.BITNET (jeff beer) (02/08/90)
Trombones are Bb instruments. If you look in a music catalog, they are refered to as Bb trombones. The fundamental pitch (position 1) is a Bb. However, the parts written for them are not transposed. I assume this is because there are no such thing as C trombones. ( plus trombone players lack the mental facilities of transposition) Over on the trumpet side, you have C trumpets, Bb trumpets, Eb trumpets, D trumpets, A trumpets... In all cases, if you play an open note, you get the "concert" pitch of whatever the trumpet is in. This has the advantage of reading a part and finguring a pitch the same, regardless of trumpet you are playing on. Trumpet players can transpose, but would rather not. The only rub is that you play a C as open, and different pitches come out. I almost would rather transpose, because when I read a C, I wanna hear a Bb. Except when I am reading lead sheets. I can read concert pitch lead sheets and transpose them into Bb. I still am better at reading Bb parts though. Except when improvising on chord changes. I am so used to transposing chord changes that I do it automatically, i.e. When I see a Bb Minor I automatically start playing on a C minor chord. Even when the chords are already transposed, so on this Bb minor chord, the part would read C minor, so I would end up playing a D minor. But that is the way I sound anyways if I am playing by ear so it really doesn't matter. Jeff