SEG92@GENESEO.BITNET (the Talking Drum) (02/04/90)
Drummer--
Were we discussing Rush? Well, since you ask, I must defend Neal Peart
(whose name I undoubtedly spelled wrong) because 1) he is good
2) everyone seems to hate him and I therefore MUST like him 3) he is a Slav
(ONLY KIDDING!!!!) and most importantly (and now I'm serious)
4) hasn't he pioneered the use of alternative drum sounds and rhythms in modern
Rock? He had a mixed electronic and acoustic set back in . . . oh, must have
been 1984? That's pretty early on, and shows progressive thinking, an
important asset in modern music (or it wouldn't be modern). I don't
particularly care for his sound (I think it lacks oomph) but I still think he's
a (dare I say genius? no.) an excellent drummer.
:)
--TDSEG92@GENESEO.BITNET (the Talking Drum) (02/04/90)
Okay, another comment on Rush.
They rock the house live. They would even if they were playing Muzak.
Signals is incredible and Grace under Pressure (p/g for short) is un-freaking-
believable. It's so solid I could die. I love it. I think that Presto is
good but falls into the same trap that Hold your fire and Power Windows did--
lack of energy. Well, Power Windows has its moments. But even though I'm not
gushing about Presto or Hold Your Fire, I'll bet that in six years I'll still
be listening to these albums while the stuff I'm going nuts over now will bore
me.
--TD.R1SE@SDSUMUS.BITNET (Dave) (02/04/90)
by-tor, don't mind drummer. He's on record as saying he doesn't like rush but he likes their songs. As you can guess, he has no respect for Niel Peart. Don't let him bother you. It takes practice, but it is possible. By the way, what is your favorite rush song? Mine is "Red Barchetta" Also, Niel writes all of their lyrics. Could you post something you've written, drummer? Domino (Snowdog) dave r1se@sdsumus.bitnet "How do you think that rabbit feels going under your spinning wheels?"
GWO101@URIACC.BITNET (Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)) (02/04/90)
Oh?? You want the lyrics to a tune that I wrote? Sure! Let me dig them
up! I have them on this computer somewhere. It was a rap tune that we
dedicated to a friend of mine. Came out nice I might add. They are in
MS Word format. Let me make them text and away it goes!
I am writing a reggae tune next. By the way, it is Neil. Not Neal or Niel.
- Drummer -ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET (Tim Johnson) (02/05/90)
>By the way, what is your favorite rush song? Mine is "Red Barchetta"
Witch Hunt.
-TimGWO101@URIACC.BITNET (Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)) (02/05/90)
Note, those are both from Moving Pictures. Personally, I like Witch Hunt
also... The one before it too...
- Drummer -SEG92@GENESEO.BITNET (the Talking Drum) (02/05/90)
>>By the way, what is your favorite rush song? Mine is "Red Barchetta" > > Witch Hunt. > > -Tim Analog Kid. Geddy shines in it. --TD the talking drum
UCSKRT@UWPLATT.EDU (By-tor) (02/05/90)
Yo, Talking Drum...
I'd have to completely agree with you. I've seen them three times, going
on four this spring (with any luck), and each time they keep getting better,
although I keep swearing that they can't. The three video tapes are testimony
to this also, after the wonder of the concert wears off. Sure, you can go see a
jazz or funk band that's tightly knit, but nothing strikes the resonant
frequency of my soul like these three guys (and Geddy's sequencers). Anybody
with any tidbits of information about the band, no matter how small, is
encouraged to send it to me at the following address.
Oh by the way, Marillion opened for them in Milwaukee during the Power
Windows tour, and they were incredible as well. I'm buying whatever I can find
from them.
By (make my music LIVE!) tor UCSKRT@UWPLATTUCSKRT@UWPLATT.EDU (By-tor) (02/05/90)
Yes, Drummer, you can just delete this sucker, since I've read your
anti-Peart messages, but I'll voice my opinions anyway.
TD, you've asked something that puts me in a bind. My favorite Rush song is
something I always have to re-evaluate, since my moods change from day to day.
This follows for most bands I like also, but none have produced the music that
gets me high like they do. I've always maintained that "The Spirit of Radio" is
my favorite, until I start listening to something else, and then my objectivity
disappears. "Red Barchetta" is awesome from a songwriting standpoint of view,
and represents my perfect driving song. I still love their instumentals "YYZ"
(partly because I can play it :) ) and "La Villa Strangiato" because of its
many related parts; it sort of reminds me of several movements of a symphony.
Neil is still my favorite drummer, even if he is a bum (although I can't
imagine that with the money they must make). Technique-wise, he might not be
"best in the world", but his active and innovative style is what appeals to me.
By the way, unless someone can prove differently, I wouldn't be surprised if he
*can* play a samba. After all, he is in a rock band, right? You don't generally
hear too many samba beats in mainstream rock. For that matter, you don't hear
too much of what Neil does anywhere else in rock. Also, for the record, he plays
with Jeff Berlin and Alan Holdsworth on Berlin's "Champion" LP. (Read... jazz,
or if you prefer, jazz fusion!)
By-tor (even the nick comes from them)HALLRL@MOREKYPR.BITNET (02/05/90)
I agree whole heartedly with the Rush comments so far, vintage Rush is `Fly By
Night` to `Moving Pictures`, they don't have the charismatic feel that their
songs use to have. TD, Peart has been a very influential drummer in Rock over
the past 15 yrs., having a lot of friends who are percussion instructors I see
and hear young players who have been influenced and inspired by Peart. I have
yet to hear any of these percussionists put down Peart, in fact most of them
like the way Peart plays.
Paradiddl that sound like a single stroke roll, ya drummer, I know several
percussionists that can pull that one off. Being at a university that has an
extremely strong percussion department, there are a ton of *bitchin* players
around.
RandoBAWOLTERS@UALR.BITNET (02/05/90)
My favorates are Prime Mover, Afterimage, and Chain Lightining.
UCSKRT@UWPLATT.EDU (By-tor) (02/06/90)
Fresh from the pages of Guitarworld magazine (Geddy and Alex are in this
month's issue), the news is that Rush is considering, and it is still just a
consideration, mind you, touring with a fourth member this time. Explanation?
Loose quote, "In the past we've been so preoccupied with precision and hitting
the right triggers at the right time that some of the fun has been lost. A
fourth member would allow us to stretch out more and bring more of the
spontaneity back." Now, folks, I'm really looking forward to this tour. Please
post any additions to the tour dates here if you find any. Thanks.
By-torFPRIEST@CLEMSON.BITNET (02/06/90)
By-tor,
People change...styles change...movements change...name one group that
hasn't changed their style at least once (one that has survived over
five years)....You can count them on one hand....
OverseerGWO101@URIACC.BITNET (Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)) (02/06/90)
Peart? Respected by percussionists? Who? Gag me.
I didn't know that Alex Acuna plays the late night talk show thing. I
was watching some talk show. Either Byron Allen or Arsenio and there he
was back there! Amazing!!
- Drummer -UCSKRT@UWPLATT.EDU (By-tor) (02/06/90)
Overseer,
Yes, I realize that happens, and it's good. Bands and people would
stagnate if styles remained the same over the years. However, why is it that
many, many bands start strongly, peak in the middle, and then tend to decline?
I would think that years of experience would make for a better product, at
least most of the time. Is it that the aging members of the band tend to lose
contact with a younger generation? I don't know, but I do know that there is a
general opinion that 70's and early 80's music was "vintage" and that today's
music doesn't compare. Any ideas?
By-torSEG92@GENESEO.BITNET (the Talking Drum) (02/07/90)
Drummer--
Peart is respected by THIS percussionist because he is in a band making
enough dough to buy a 4,000,000 piece drumset and therefore must have some
edge over me because I am still stuck at 4 (and borrowed metal to boot).
Of course one could say the same about whatever drums for poison . . .
heh heh heh heh HEH
:)
--the :) drumschew@EI.ECN.PURDUE.EDU (H.C.E.) (02/09/90)
Drummer,
I dunno if we would all be licking Vinnie's boots if he played
for Rush. I think the point that people have been trying to make is that even
if Vinnie is a better player it is not the technical ability which makes them
love Neil. What I love is Neil's style. If Vinnie was in Rush and played like
Neil does then of course I would like him, but I doubt they would play
similarly (which is good).
Of course, it may be that I would like Vinnie's playing even better, but
my taste isn't just based on ability. Simply put I love Neil's playing, whether
or not it's difficult. It goes wonderfully with the music (IMHO)...
H.C.E.FPRIEST@CLEMSON.BITNET (02/14/90)
I know I'm kicking a dead horse, but Rush fever has hit Greenville,
and the Clemson campus is buzzing with excitement....not only because
we have a SUPERB basketball team, but also because of the concert...
I know a friend who used to be a bellboy at the hotel where they are staying
and tonight we may have a chance to get in to see the band...Mr. Big
is opening for them so we might get to see them as well...
wow...
OverseerBAWOLTERS@UALR.BITNET (02/20/90)
I need to know Rush dates for St.Louis, Memphis, and Little Rock...thanks!
SEG92@GENESEO.BITNET (the Talking Drum) (02/21/90)
I'm looking for tour info for anywhere in the Northeast--Rcochester or buffalo preferred. --td
LHARRIS@CLEMSON.BITNET (02/22/90)
Like the overseer, I too went to see RUSH last saturday. It was a truly incredible show, the lighting and laser effects really added great effects to these fine musicians. The large screen behind the stage was used less than I would have liked to see. One of the most incredible parts of the show was Niel's drum solo that they did directly following YYZ. He and his drums were built up onto a rotational platform so he could change drum sets completely and remain facing the audience. This guy is a bum???!!!??? NO WAY!!! ........................................................................ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < / /| /'''/ /'''/ | / > E-mail: LHARRIS@CLEMSON.bitnet > <___ / / | / / / / | /__> RELAY: "Dune_Buggy" or "RUSH_fan" > <-- / /--| /--|- /--|- |/---> this space left > < /____ / | / | / | / > intentionally blank > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT? -S.W.
GWO101@URIACC.BITNET (Michael Lehnertz (Drummer)) (02/22/90)
A guy that has a rotating drum set makes him great. God! So, I bet
that Tommy Lee is beyond great because HE did a solo up-side down??? Get
with the program. Neil had the rotating set last tour too. Yawn.
- Drummer -shrum@EOS.ARC.NASA.GOV (Richard Barry Shrum) (02/28/90)
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