[bit.listserv.nodmgt-l] Oops, forgotten list of missing :routtabs

HARRY@MARIST.BITNET (A. Harry Williams) (02/10/90)

These are the BITNET nodes with no :routtab.

ANLADM1  ANLADM2  ANLAPS   ANLBEM   ANLCHM   ANLCMT   ANLCV1
ANLEES   ANLEES1  ANLEES2  ANLEES3  ANLEL    ANLEMC   ANLER
ANLHEP   ANLPHY   ANLPNS   ANLVG    ANLVMS   BENTLEY  BUCKNELL
BUCSI0   CESARVAX CITDEIMO CRNLASSP CRNLCAM  CRNLDEV  CRNLEE
CRNLION  CRNLNUC  CRNLTHRY CRNLVAX1 CRNLVAX3 CRNLVAX4 EMORY
HARVBMB  HARVPCNA HARVUNXU HUMA1    HUSCGW   HUSC7    HUSC8
HUSSLE   IRISHVX2 IUPCP6   JPNISAS0 MILTON   NDRADLAB NIHCEIB
NIHCOD2  NIHCOD3  NIHCRING NIHCR31  NIHCUDEC NIHDCRT  NIHDCRTL
NIHDRG   NIHDRS   NIHDRSBE NIHHFED1 NIHHWB1  NIHH101  NIHH311
NIHKLMB  NIHOD1   NIHOPSIS NIH3PLUS NIH3TEST NIH4TEST NRAO
PORTAL   PSU2020  RSAGE    SPC11A   SPC11B   SPC11C   SPC11D
SPC11E   SPC11Y   SPC11Z   SUSOLAR  TCSMUSA  TJWATSON UCBALFA
UCBARE   UCBARGON UCBARPA  UCBBACH  UCBBIZET UCBBKYAS UCBBRAHM
UCBBUDDY UCBCAD   UCBCALDE UCBCARTA UCBCCHEM UCBCED   UCBCEVAX
UCBCOGSC UCBCORY  UCBCSM   UCBDEAN  UCBDOROT UCBEAST  UCBECLAI
UCBENZYM UCBERNIE UCBEROS  UCBESVAX UCBEULER UCBFRANN UCBGARNE
UCBHOLDE UCBIC    UCBINSEC UCBJANUS UCBJI    UCBKEPLE UCBMAXWE
UCBMIRO  UCBMONET UCBMOTE  UCBNEWTO UCBOKEEF UCBOZ    UCBPOSTG
UCBQAL   UCBRENOI UCBSEYMO UCBSHAKE UCBSIM   UCBSOE   UCBSSL
UCBSTAT  UCBTULIP UCBUNIXS UCBVANGO UCBVAX   UCBVIOLE UCBZOOEY
UCHCECVX UCSCA    UCSCC    UCSCCRLJ UCSCCRLP UCSCCRLS UCSCCRLV
UCSCD    UCSCE    UCSCERIS UCSCF    UCSCG    UCSCH    UCSCHU
UCSCI    UCSCJ    UCSCK    UCSCL    UCSCLOA  UCSCM    UCSFBCL
UCSFCCB  UCSFCGL  UCSFCOPE UCSFC255 UCSFC450 UCSFFFFT UCSFMIS
UCSFNMR  UCSFUSE  UCSFVIVO UGA205   UIUCDENR UKWANG   UMNACUX
UNDHEP   UONEURO  UOREGON  UOXRAY   UTCHP1

TERRY@SPCVXA.BITNET (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr) (02/10/90)

> These are the BITNET nodes with no :routtab.
> [...]
> SPC11A   SPC11B   SPC11C   SPC11D
> SPC11E   SPC11Y   SPC11Z

  These nodes share common routing tables with node SPCVXA, which has a correct
:routtab. As all of our systems are at the end of a leaf, all we really need is
a list of current nodes. We create this from the NETINIT file for SPCVXA. The
systems listed above are mail-only nodes anyway, so any attempt to send a file
to them would generate a non-delivery nastygram.

        Terry Kennedy           Operations Manager, Academic Computing
        terry@spcvxa.bitnet     St. Peter's College, US
        terry@spcvxa.spc.edu    (201) 915-9381

mwh@IVORY.EDUCOM.EDU (Michael Hrybyk) (02/10/90)

get the original file?

I also have a list, but most are (UCB) 'HOMEBREW' nodes, which do
nFri; from "Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr" at Feb 9, 90 2:02 pm
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> systems listed above are mail-only nodes anyway, so any attempt to send a file
> to them would generate a non-delivery nastygram.
>
>         Terry Kennedy           Operations Manager, Academic Computing

No :routtab tags were generated for mail-only nodes.

Mike Hrybyk
BITNIC

TERRY@SPCVXA.BITNET (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr) (02/10/90)

  Your message came through a bit garbled, let me see...

> get the original file?

  If you mean the original posting which omitted the actual node list, yes I
received it.

> No :routtab tags were generated for mail-only nodes.

  If we've reached closure on the discussion ov valid values for :routtab, do
you think I should submit update requests to include :routtab.NONE fields for
my nodes? (And yes, NONE is appropriate - these nodes maintain no routing
tables locally - all mail is verified via DECnet connection to the mailer on
SPCVXA, which has the real tables).

        Terry Kennedy

mwh@IVORY.EDUCOM.EDU (Michael Hrybyk) (02/12/90)

> >No :routtab tags were generated for mail-only nodes.
>
> Why is that.  I have a mail-only node hanging off my cluster (GENESEO)
> and they need the tables for PMDF.
> Jim...
>

I should be more specific about the scheme used to generate routtab tags.
I first looked at inform/info tags, looking for a clue as to what
type of table was needed. I then looked at contact/netsoft combinations
(which is what Chris Thomas uses, I believe). If none of those were
"valid" (HOMEBREW, ...), the tag was not generated.

GENESEO had an inform/info pair that was valid, so a correct routtab
tag was generated.

Sorry for the confusion.

Mike Hrybyk
BITNIC

MAINTCMS@PUCC.BITNET (John Wagner) (02/12/90)

On Fri, 9 Feb 90 18:00:22 EST Michael Hrybyk said:
>No :routtab tags were generated for mail-only nodes.

It used to be policy that mail-only nodes were excluded from the BITEARN
NODES.  When was this policy changed?