[list.british-cars] Minis

Ken Neff <kneff@osf.org> (02/23/90)

So, what can anyone tell me about Minis?
Alternately, can anyone recommend any good books on Minis?

There's a Mini 850 (1960-1963, the owner's not sure) with an 1100 engine
and a Cooper head for sale here, and I and a friend are more than
vaguely interested in its value as an SCCA racer.  The car's been
modified enough by past owners that I wouldn't mind hacking it further.
 I haven't seen the car yet, so I have no details, and the owner was
less than knowledgeable, but it sparked my already budding interest in
Minis (I have a warm place in my heart for both tiny cars and A-series engines).


					Thanks,
						Ken Neff

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sfisher@abingdon.wpd.sgi.com (Scott Fisher) (02/24/90)

	So, what can anyone tell me about Minis?

Quite a bit...

	Alternately, can anyone recommend any good books on Minis?

Lindsay Porter's Guide To Purchas & DIY Restoration is a good
place to start, as is the Practical Classics Mini Restoration
book (can't remember the exact title, but PC is a British mag
that rebuilds wretched heaps of iron oxide into show cars and
publishes stories to pay the cost.)  These are both excellent
sources of information on the Mini.
	
	There's a Mini 850 (1960-1963, the owner's not sure) with an 1100 engine
	and a Cooper head for sale here, 

Sounds like the 12G295 head and 1098cc block out of an MG 1100.
A common retrofit into one of the small-bore Minis (my Traveler
had just such a combination).  The 295 head is the best-flowing
head of the small-bore engines (1100cc and lower).  Check under
the valve cover for a casting number.

	and I and a friend are more than
	vaguely interested in its value as an SCCA racer.  The car's been
	modified enough by past owners that I wouldn't mind hacking it further.
	 I haven't seen the car yet, so I have no details, and the owner was
	less than knowledgeable, but it sparked my already budding interest in
	Minis (I have a warm place in my heart for both tiny cars and A-series 
	engines).

Good choice!  Minis are great cars in GT5, where the SCCA has 
them classed right now; the class records at both Sears Point
and Laguna Seca are held by a Mini.  They require only a tiny
amount of re-engineering (mainly additional chassis stiffness
and disc brakes, which were used on the Cooper S cars and are
therefore available fairly easily), and they are very much an
understood quantity in the racing world.  The A Series engine
is also a good base for a racing car, as it has been hacked a
bit over the last 30 years.

Prices vary, but nun-rusted, running Minis seem to be selling 
for about $2500 in only moderately ratty condition.  They can
sell for as much as $10,000 in impeccable condition, or if it
is a historically important car for more than that, but $5000
plus or minus a grand or so seems to be the average price for
most Minis in very good condition.  

George.Emery@p42.f4.n105.z1.fidonet.org (George Emery) (02/24/90)

 > So, what can anyone tell me about Minis?

Probably more than you really want to know...

 > Alternately, can anyone recommend any good books on Minis?

Any of David Vizard's books (How to Modify Your Mini and the one on
A-series engines and the one on nitrous oxide) and the DIY Restoration series.

 > There's a Mini 850 (1960-1963, the owner's not sure) with an 1100 engine
 > and a Cooper head for sale here, and I and a friend are more than
 > vaguely interested in its value as an SCCA racer.

The 1100 engine is the worst for road racing, but it's an excellent
autocrosser because of its long stroke/high torque.  Would probably also
do okay in hillclimb.  The important thing with Minis is that you
need to strip weight out of it if you're going to race it, particularly
with the smallbores.  Suspension mods and engine mods are pretty standard.
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