garnett@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Roger Garnett) (02/28/90)
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chrisp@mrloog.wr.tek.com (02/28/90)
RG wrote: >Sizes named by size of *bolt head* >Whitworth- He was one of the first to come up with a standard thread system. > Used in England from ><~1875? and even in the US for a while. > Used in random locations on British cars of all years until they > went metric in the late 70's. >Metric- just as bad as the rest- there may be *3* thread pitches for a > given diameter, instead of just 2! >There are/have been others, lesser used. And don't forget the pipe threads, >(tapered). >You think you have problems- My MG PA uses BSF, with some Whitworth thrown in. >I have an ASF/C tap & die set, but still need to get BSF, Metric,AND Whitworth! A friend has some whitworth sockets he had used to work in his Norton. Somehow I ended up with a few of them. Imagine my surprise when I found that the Moss gearboxes from early Jags were held together with nearly all Whitworth fasteners! I lucked out this time, as I had the correct socket to fit what I was attempting to remove. Has anyone bought Snap-On spanners recently? What might I expect to spend for this brand of tool? I've finally located a route that the Snap-On Tool Van follows (most shops up here buy Mac, and there somehow are just not the same...:-). Christopher M. Perez # chrisp@mrloog.WR.TEK.COM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Heart in mouth, teeth in pocket, I was about to depart in a glorified hip bath geared for 170mph!... pressing the starter...Cough! Blat! Sputter!...Cough! Blat! Blatblatblat! Kerrrowwww! The 3.4-litre straight-six was in business..." To Le Mans by Jaguar by Tom Llewellin
richard welty <welty@lewis.crd.ge.com> (02/28/90)
Sizes named by diameter of shaft:
SAE (some acronoym about american "standards", which lists the various systems
of pitch, hardness, etc.)
hmmm. SAE stands for `Society of Automotive Engineers', the
society which promulgates standards in the US. i'd imagine that
SAE fasteners are those which follow SAE Standards.
-- richardrichard welty <welty@lewis.crd.ge.com> (02/28/90)
Has anyone bought Snap-On spanners recently? What might I expect to spend
for this brand of tool?
entirely too much. i've a current price book, and have bought one
new Snap-On tool (a slide gear puller/hammer.) unless you really need
a particular tool, or are using lots of tools very heavily, i'd stick
with one of these choices: 1) craftsman; 2) S&K; or 3) find a decent
used tool store. i have purchased a number of used Snap-On tools,
and it doesn't hurt as much at 1/2 of list price.
the only exception i might make to the above is the Snap-On `flank drive'
socket set; these are wonderful sockets and are much easier on the edges
of the bolts and nuts that you use them on. i lust after a set of
1/2" flank drive sockets. fortunately, i've restrained myself from
spending all my lunch money on a set.
richardkam@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Katherine Minister Hosch) (03/01/90)
> Has anyone bought Snap-On spanners recently? What might I expect to spend > for this brand of tool? > > entirely too much. i've a current price book, and have bought one > new Snap-On tool (a slide gear puller/hammer.) unless you really need > a particular tool, or are using lots of tools very heavily, i'd stick > with one of these choices: 1) craftsman; 2) S&K; or 3) find a decent > used tool store. i have purchased a number of used Snap-On tools, > and it doesn't hurt as much at 1/2 of list price. > richard > At the risk of starting a flame-war, I must beg to differ with the response. We have tried snap-on, s&k, and (of course) craftsman, and I would recommend snap-on every time, if you can possibly afford them. Craftsman is adequate for trivial stuff, but really seems guaranteed to disappoint. My husband and I made a pledge not to shop at sears after we returned the second (and last) of two torc wrenches. The first had been opened and didn't contain any instructions at all. The second had *not* been opened, but when we opened it it was clear that it had been used. The wrench had cakes of greasy grime rubbed in it, and the instructions were covered in greasy fingerprints. We bought a used (not used sold as new) torc wrench from snap-on, as well as several other items. We seem always to reach for the snap-ons when there is a choice. . .
richard welty <welty@lewis.crd.ge.com> (03/01/90)
to amplify and clarify, and generally expand upon my earlier comments ...
Has anyone bought Snap-On spanners recently? What might I expect to spend
for this brand of tool?
entirely too much. i've a current price book, and have bought one
new Snap-On tool (a slide gear puller/hammer.) unless you really need
a particular tool, or are using lots of tools very heavily, i'd stick
with one of these choices: 1) craftsman; 2) S&K; or 3) find a decent
used tool store. i have purchased a number of used Snap-On tools,
and it doesn't hurt as much at 1/2 of list price.
keep in mind that i think Snap-On tools are extremely well made, and
that the quality of Craftsman tools is on the decline. even so, you
still get an outstanding warranty on non-powered Craftsman tools, so
unless you are seriously dissatisfied with them, they're a good route
to take. me, i'm approaching dissatisfaction with them, but lots of
people i know are still happy with 'em.
richard