[net.space] LEO habitat ideas...

peterb@pbear.UUCP (03/09/85)

	Does anybody have any data regarding the weights and measures of
a Saturn V rocket? I have a pet project I have been kicking around in my
head for a while.

	I presume(probably wrong) that some of the booster sections of
the saturn V rocket are still kicking around in mothballs.

	What would happen if you took just the booster, fitted it with some
solid rokect boosters, an areodynamic nose and launched it. I am trying to
work out the numbers regarding whether or not it can reach LEO, but I don't
have the numbers or the right equations. With time and help I'll get both.

	Here is a rather large hollow object with two perfectly good
airsealed chambers. If I remember right, the booster was something like 100
to 200 feet long. It also contains some LOX and Liquid hydrogren.  I am
assuming that boosters shut down when thrust drops off, rather than burn to
exhausted. Still there would be some unusable fuel in this thing, and with
the shuttle able to bring up some tools and personnel, I think it would not
take much to convert it into a usable habitat.

	It would contain two of the basic requirements needed. It gives
shelter, and it has air (well pure O2). Once some fittings are attached
(such as an airlock, solar cells, radio positioning gear, computers) then
the roughnecks would have a spartan but usable living quarters. If you put
up a few of these objects then you can use one as a "dry dock" where
sattelites can be repaired, another can be used for agriculture, another for
implementation of space industries. I don't think that this idea is the
greatest, but I do think its feasible (if the critters can be placed in
orbit!)

	I would love to see some people kick the idea around on the net. We
could work out some of the kinks in this crazy idea. Who knows, it might
become a reality. (oh wouldn't that be a rush!)

					Peter Barada
					ima!pbear!peterb

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al@ames.UUCP (Al Globus) (03/13/85)

> 
> 	Does anybody have any data regarding the weights and measures of
> a Saturn V rocket? I have a pet project I have been kicking around in my
> head for a while.
> 
> 	I presume(probably wrong) that some of the booster sections of
> the saturn V rocket are still kicking around in mothballs.
> 

I think you're wrong - but there is a functional equivalent, and there's 
lots of them.  The shuttle external tank.  It turns out that you can
take the tank into low Earth orbit and GAIN payload mass (about 2000 lb
I think).  This is due to the manuvering necessary to land the tank
in an ocean rather than on some unsuspecting city.  The tank is very
large and quite air tight.  There have been some studies on using tanks
and even some space station proposals using them.  The problem, of course,
is that you need manufacturing capability to turn the tanks into anything
useful.  I.e., you need the space station before you can make
extensive use of the tanks.