trek-info@scam.berkeley.edu (Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith) (02/03/90)
Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information pertaining to Star Trek. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases and episode credits (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose guidelines - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. GUIDELINES FOR SUBMISSIONS : The first and most important guideline is accurate attribution. If you submit a transcript of a printed article, I expect the source to be fully identified before I will accept it. I expect newspaper article submissions to include the newspaper, date, article title, and page number. There are several reasons for this. It helps me insure reasonably accurate and reliable information. It gives due credit to those responsible for the information. Finally, in the case of printed information, I will generally have to call the source and obtain permission to reprint the article, and I need as much information about the article as possible. The second guideline is that you restrict personal comments to a minimum when submitting information. Corrections and refutation of rumors is welcome. Personal reactions to convention speakers are welcome, provided that you are providing actual news while commenting. Comments like "I'm posting this article even though I think this guy is an idiot" are not welcome. If you post an article with personal comments that I feel will be inflammatory, I will reject it and request that you resubmit the article with a more neutral tone. Send your submissions to "trek-info@scam.berkeley.edu" or "...!ucbvax!scam!trek-info". Mail addresses permitting, I will reply, yes or no, to all submissions. All articles appearing in this newsgroup will be archived and made available via anonymous ftp at a later date (once there's enough articles to start archiving...). If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@scam.berkeley.edu" or ...!ucbvax!scam!trek-info-request". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Editted by Jim Griffith - the official scapegoat of rec.arts.startrek.info E-mail submissions to trek-info@scam.berkeley.edu or ...!ucbvax!scam!trek-info
trek-info@con.Berkeley.EDU (Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith) (02/28/90)
[Note: all sites should now have access to the group. If you are unable to read r.a.s.i, it is probably because your site has opted not to propagate the group. If you are unable to read r.a.s.i, you should talk to your news admin. to see if this is the case. If this is *not* the case, please let me know. This will be the last time I cross-post this article to r.a.s. - ed.] Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases and episode credits (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@scam.berkeley.edu" or ...!ucbvax!scam!trek-info-request". All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file INDEX in that directory explains what is available. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Jim Griffith - the official scapegoat of rec.arts.startrek.info E-mail submissions to trek-info@scam.berkeley.edu or ...!ucbvax!scam!trek-info
trek-info@scam.Berkeley.EDU (Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith) (06/03/90)
Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases, episode credits, and stations listing (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Roger Noe, and Chris Wayne, respectively) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@scam.berkeley.edu" or ...!ucbvax!scam!trek-info-request". All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file README in that directory explains what is available. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Jim Griffith - the official scapegoat of rec.arts.startrek.info E-mail submissions to trek-info@scam.berkeley.edu or ...!ucbvax!scam!trek-info
trek-info@scam.Berkeley.EDU (Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith) (07/06/90)
Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases, episode credits, and stations listing (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Roger Noe, and Chris Wayne, respectively) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@scam.berkeley.edu" or ...!ucbvax!scam!trek-info-request". [Note - these addresses will change very soon. The old ones will still work, but the new ones will elicit a quicker response. Watch for administrivia- ed.] All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file README in that directory explains what is available. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Jim Griffith - the official scapegoat of rec.arts.startrek.info E-mail submissions to trek-info@scam.berkeley.edu or ...!ucbvax!scam!trek-info
trek-info@dweeb.fx.com (Jim Griffith) (10/02/90)
Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information and news pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases, episode credits, and stations listing (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Roger Noe, and Chris Wayne, respectively) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com". All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file README in that directory explains what is available. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Jim Griffith - the official scapegoat for r.a.s.i. Email submissions to trek-info@dweeb.fx.com, and questions to trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com
trek-info@dweeb.fx.com (Jim Griffith) (11/02/90)
[Note - I'm baaaaaaack. My apologies, but I've been cut off from the Net for the past three weeks by what was effectively an Act of God. So now I'm back with a vengeance - ed.] Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information and news pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases, episode credits, and stations listing (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Roger Noe, and Chris Wayne, respectively) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com". All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file README in that directory explains what is available. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith - the official scapegoat for r.a.s.i. Email submissions to trek-info@dweeb.fx.com, and questions to trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com
trek-info@dweeb.fx.com (Jim Griffith) (12/01/90)
Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information and news pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases, episode credits, and stations listing (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Roger Noe, and Chris Wayne, respectively) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com". All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file README in that directory explains what is available. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith - the official scapegoat for r.a.s.i. Email submissions to trek-info@dweeb.fx.com, and questions to trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com
trek-info@dweeb.fx.com (Jim Griffith - Moderator) (02/02/91)
Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information and news pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases, episode credits, episode synopses, and stations listing (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Roger Noe, Tim Lynch, and Chris Wayne, respectively) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Note that I am adverse to accepting "canonical lists", such as "the canonical list of starships", "the canonical list of alien races", etc. 95% of the time, these lists aren't canonical, parts of them are subject to interpretation, or they're otherwise inaccurate. Feel free to submit them, but expect that I'll reject them. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com". All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file README in that directory explains what is available. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith - the official scapegoat for r.a.s.i. Email submissions to trek-info@dweeb.fx.com, and questions to trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com
trek-info@dweeb.fx.com (Jim Griffith - Moderator) (04/02/91)
Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information and news pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases, episode credits, new episode synopses, and stations listing (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Roger Noe, Tim Lynch, and Chris Wayne, respectively) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Note that I am adverse to accepting "canonical lists", such as "the canonical list of starships", "the canonical list of alien races", etc. 95% of the time, these lists aren't canonical, parts of them are subject to interpretation, or they're otherwise inaccurate. Feel free to submit them, but expect that I'll reject them. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com". All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file README in that directory explains what is available. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith - the official scapegoat for r.a.s.i. Email submissions to trek-info@dweeb.fx.com, and questions to trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com
trek-info@dweeb.fx.com (Jim Griffith - Moderator) (05/04/91)
Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information and news pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases, episode credits, new episode synopses, and stations listing (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Roger Noe, Tim Lynch, and Chris Wayne, respectively) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Note that I am averse to accepting "canonical lists", such as "the canonical list of starships", "the canonical list of alien races", etc. 95% of the time, these lists aren't canonical, parts of them are subject to interpretation, or they're otherwise inaccurate. Feel free to submit them, but expect that I'll reject them. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com". All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file README in that directory explains what is available. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith - the official scapegoat for r.a.s.i. Email submissions to trek-info@dweeb.fx.com, and questions to trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com
trek-info@dweeb.fx.com (Jim Griffith - Moderator) (06/04/91)
Welcome to rec.arts.startrek.info! The purpose of this group is to provide an uncluttered resource of information and news pertaining to Star Trek. Rec.arts.startrek.info is a moderated newsgroup, which means that all articles must be submitted to the moderator for approval before they will be posted. Articles appearing in this newsgroup generally fall into one of five categories : 1) Official press releases, episode credits, new episode synopses, and stations listing (generally posted by Mike "Vidiot" Brown, Roger Noe, Tim Lynch, and Chris Wayne, respectively) 2) Convention reports - summaries of Q&A sessions with guest speakers or Richard Arnold and news of upcoming conventions. 3) Star Trek offers from one-time or otherwise unusual sources (including, for example, the Citibank Star Trek Visa and the Star Trek V Marshmallow Dispenser, but not including ads from companies such as Lincoln Enterprises). 4) Factual articles from newspapers, magazines, or other forms of media (as compared to articles expressing opinions, such as movie reviews). 5) First- or second-hand information, such as reliable information on upcoming episodes or movies, "I just heard this from Mike Okuda", etc. The key word here is "reliable"... These are very loose categories - if I think a submission contains relatively accurate, potentially interesting information, I will accept it. Note that I am averse to accepting "canonical lists", such as "the canonical list of starships", "the canonical list of alien races", etc. 95% of the time, these lists aren't canonical, parts of them are subject to interpretation, or they're otherwise inaccurate. Feel free to submit them, but expect that I'll reject them. Item #3 causes the most trouble. I will accept solicitations from one-time or otherwise unusual sources - the Star Trek Visa, the STV Marshmallow dispenser, the replicas from the Franklin Mint, etc. I will *not* accept articles from clubs soliciting membership or from commercial groups such as Lincoln Enterprises. The former barely qualify as "news", as they are unusual offers. The latter are not. If you have comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests for archive information, etc., send mail to "trek-info-request@dweeb.fx.com". All articles appearing in r.a.s.i are available via anonymous FTP. The articles are archived on scam.berkeley.edu (128.32.138.1) in the directory misc/info. The file README in that directory explains what is available. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Griffith /--OO--\ | Two great powers are on our side: the power of griffith@dweeb.fx.com | Love and the power of Arithmetic. These two are BEWARE BATS WITHOUT NOSES! | stronger than anything else in the world.