ln63wkp@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Viet Ho) (02/16/90)
A3000 DEBUTS IN PARIS!!!!!!!!!
* 68030 16 or 25Mhz on the Motherboard (asynchronous)!
* 32 bit bus for memory and I/O (backward compatible with ZorroII)
* 50 Mb hard drive (don't know if SCSI)
* 2 megs Chip Ram!
* Flicker-Fixer included
* 1.4 ECS giving virtual screen 1280 x 485 pixels w/wo interlace.
* Smaller nicer case with PC slots and 4 Amiga expansion slots.
* Power switch on front, keyboard connector on side.
* Price unknown :-( !
The BBS I got this from is JDR-BBS located in San Jose, Ca (408) 559-0253
Hey how come I don't hear anyone on Usenet mention aboout this
in the past two days? This has got to be the biggest news since
CBM put out the A2000 (nothing was as big as the A1000's debut in
NY)... So where are all U usenetters in Paris? What's the deal on
the 3000? Where's 1.4 Kickstart? I thought they're going to hold
until 1.4 is ready to ship. Isn't the 3000 suppose to be a Unix
box?
whine...whine...whine....
-Viet
vho@ucsde.edubscott@pikes.Colorado.EDU (Ben M Scott) (02/16/90)
In article <7460@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> ln63wkp@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Viet Ho) writes: > A3000 DEBUTS IN PARIS!!!!!!!!! > Hey how come I don't hear anyone on Usenet mention aboout this >in the past two days? This has got to be the biggest news since Most likely because it's probably not true... remember the reports (not merely rumors) that the A3000 was going to be shown at last year's Comdex? It turned out to be just the 2500/30. Trust me, the A-3000 is still a ways off. I know this because I know that 1.4 is still a ways off and the 3000 is going to need at LEAST 1.4 OS to do anything fancy. Besides, it's a little suspicious when they said "Flicker Fixer included"; why would Commodore buy a product from a 3rd party that is already made obsolete by the new Denise? Have patience. Good things come to those who wait. . <<<<Infinite K>>>>
barrett@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Dan Barrett) (02/16/90)
In article <7460@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> ln63wkp@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Viet Ho) writes: > A3000 DEBUTS IN PARIS!!!!!!!!! > Hey how come I don't hear anyone on Usenet mention aboout this... Well... maybe because it isn't true...? I don't know, but it sounds fishy to me. Dan //////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ | Dan Barrett, Department of Computer Science Johns Hopkins University | | INTERNET: barrett@cs.jhu.edu | | | COMPUSERVE: >internet:barrett@cs.jhu.edu | UUCP: barrett@jhunix.UUCP | \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////////////////////////
valentin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Valentin Pepelea) (02/17/90)
In article <7460@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> ln63wkp@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Viet Ho) writes: > > Hey how come I don't hear anyone on Usenet mention aboout this >in the past two days? This has got to be the biggest news since >CBM put out the A2000. I looks like the Usenet community has finally achieved a certain level of maturity, to the point that rumors are taken for what they are. We have all been witnesses to many postings on this newsgroup about the A3000 since about this time last year. And even earlier. The excitement has been subdued by maturity, except for a few whiners who insist on doing their thing. >whine...whine...whine.... That's what I mean. :-) Valentin -- The Goddess of democracy? "The tyrants Name: Valentin Pepelea may distroy a statue, but they cannot Phone: (215) 431-9327 kill a god." UseNet: cbmvax!valentin@uunet.uu.net - Ancient Chinese Proverb Claimer: I not Commodore spokesman be
cmcmanis@stpeter.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (02/17/90)
In article <7460@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> ln63wkp@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Viet Ho) writes: > A3000 DEBUTS IN PARIS!!!!!!!!! > Hey how come I don't hear anyone on Usenet mention aboout this >in the past two days? Generally because all of the information given out at the Paris developers conference was supposedly under NonDisclosure, meaning that CBM could sue you if you talked about this product outside of the conference. Now it may seem like a great service to tell the world about some fancy new machine that CBM is working on, however what no one knows is A) How much Commodore can build it for, and hence what to sell it for, and B) When all the things that need doing like manuals, FCC certification, testing, ROM fixes, etc will be done. So that means that we don't know when this fancy machine will be out or what it will cost. So what if some naive user comes out and says "Well I would buy an Amiga but I'll wait for the 3000." WHAT IF IT NEVER COMES OUT!? That is one less Amiga owner in the world, and that hurts everybody. There were no product announcements from Commodore to the world at DevCon, there was just some information being exchanged between the company and the developers WHO HAVE A NEED TO KNOW. You see the developers who want to ship product on the box have to start right now if CBM plans to ship it anytime within the next TWO YEARS. So the reason you don't here anyone chatting up the 3000 in these newgroups is because there is no such thing as a 3000. You can't buy one, neither can I, and neither you nor I can say when some third party might be able to buy one. That means pining away for one won't help. The only truthful thing you can say is the CBM is continuing to move the Amiga family forward and this is a Good Thing. That, at least, should allay any fears as to the viability of the company itself. --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. "If it didn't have bones in it, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?!"
pselver@ssi3b1.zone1.com (Peter Selverstone) (02/18/90)
In article <3289@pikes.Colorado.EDU> bscott@pikes.Colorado.EDU (Ben M Scott) writes: >Besides, it's a little suspicious when they said "Flicker Fixer included"; >why would Commodore buy a product from a 3rd party that is already made >obsolete by the new Denise? Without commenting in any way upon the speculation regarding confidential information, I would like to correct your evident misunderstanding of the capabilities of the enhanced Denise vis a vis flicker fixer. If anyone doubts the wisdom of Commodore's newfound concern for confidentality, they need only consider the confusion about the "non-interlace chips", touted for two years and still undelivered. The basic problem of the Amiga display is lack of bandwidth. In order to produce a 640 x 480 non-interlace display the enhanced Denise is limited to four colors from a palette of 64. Since all of the chip memory bandwith is required to obtain four colors, performance will suffer. A non-interlace workbench screen with performance similar to the current wb (alternate memory cycles avalable to the CPU) will be limited to two colors. Flicker fixer has no effect on performance and supports all display modes. It is, and will continue to be, the best approach to high quality displays for the Amiga 2000/2500. -- Peter Selverstone ...{mit-eddie,pyramid,datacube}!mirror!ssi3b1!pselver Spy Pond Systems pselver@ssi3b1.zone1.com Arlington, MA BIX:pselverstone PLINK:pselverst CIS:72527,2652