[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] a2286 woes

lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (03/18/90)

In <90077.201706CJC105@psuvm.psu.edu>, CJC105@psuvm.psu.edu (Chris) writes:
>I'm having problems with the A2286.  When the A2000 cover is on, the A2286
>doesn't work (ie Janus library not found).  When it's off, it works.  If I
>pull the cover forward an inch or so the 2286 will work, but any less than
>that and it doesn't.  I've ruled out the possibility of a short or pressure
>caused by the cover.   Could it be RF interference?  Any ideas?

The most prevalent cause for Janus library not found is poor seating of the
Bridge board. Sounds like your cover is putting pressure on the rear section of
the case, and in turn causing the Bridge to pull to the rear. Try it without
the screw holding the Brige backplate to the case. If it works, you've found
the problem.

-larry

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CJC105@psuvm.psu.edu (Chris) (03/19/90)

I'm having problems with the A2286.  When the A2000 cover is on, the A2286
doesn't work (ie Janus library not found).  When it's off, it works.  If I
pull the cover forward an inch or so the 2286 will work, but any less than
that and it doesn't.  I've ruled out the possibility of a short or pressure
caused by the cover.   Could it be RF interference?  Any ideas?


                                                Chris Conrad
                                                cjc105@psuvm (bitnet)

bsyme@cs.strath.ac.uk (Brian J Syme IE88) (03/19/90)

In article <90077.201706CJC105@psuvm.psu.edu> CJC105@psuvm.psu.edu (Chris) writes:
>I'm having problems with the A2286.  When the A2000 cover is on, the A2286
>doesn't work (ie Janus library not found).  When it's off, it works.  If I
>pull the cover forward an inch or so the 2286 will work, but any less than
>that and it doesn't.  I've ruled out the possibility of a short or pressure
>caused by the cover.   Could it be RF interference?  Any ideas?

Sounds like it - I have a similar problem with my machine. When I have my hard
drive mounted in the upper 3.5" disk bay, it works fine with the lid off, or
partially on, but close it up (and of course put all the screws back in, 'cos
you think it works) and - DAMM - endless read/write errors...

I've fiddled about, and pretty much ruled out any shorts to the case, but
it looks like RFI to me. Any help much appreciated. (I've contacted CBM UK
about this but they're as good as useless - the tech support dept's
info stops at the price list.)


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gsgi_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Gregory Gibson) (03/20/90)

Mine worked for two days.  Then bam!  No library found.  It worked from
the floppy yesterday.  Today I got ti to boot and now it can't find
aboot.ctrl, so I fixed that (don't know where it went), then it couldn't
find autoboot.  

From the floppy it works but it doesn't recognize the hard drive.  This
is frustrating.  I'll try removing that screw...

Greg   gsgi@uhura.cc.rochester.edu or gsgi_ltd@uordbv.bitnet

hawk@pnet01.cts.com (John Anderson) (03/21/90)

  Do you have a Processor Accelerator installed in your 2000 at the time you
are having problems with the 2286 board?  I had one installed and it really
messed up with the Janus Libraries when the Accelerator was in fst mode.

gsgi_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Gregory Gibson) (03/21/90)

It seems to be working if you take the monitor off of the computer.
I'll try this for a while and report what I find.  Is this a new
problem or have people heard of it before?

bsyme@cs.strath.ac.uk (Brian J Syme IE88) (03/21/90)

In article <5939@ur-cc.UUCP> gsgi_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Gregory Gibson) writes:
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>It seems to be working if you take the monitor off of the computer.
>I'll try this for a while and report what I find.  Is this a new
>problem or have people heard of it before?

Well I certainly have, but its not the cause of my hard-drive problem. I had
an early 1000 that had occassional r/w errors on its internal floppy when the
monitor was on top, but that was probably because it was relatively unshielded.
I'd have thought that a dirty great metal case would provide enough shielding.
And I'd have thought that the machine was designed with a monitor sitting on
top in mind. 

Anybody else got any ideas?

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CJC105@psuvm.psu.edu (Chris) (03/22/90)

The problem with the A2286 seems obvious (IMHO).  After ruling out shorts and
pressure cause by the A2000 cover the only possibility left is increased
internal RF noise when the cover is on.  The big question is what can one do
to easily solve this noise problem?

On another note, there seems to be a bug in the BridgeBoard software (Commodore
is aware of this).  The problem comes when you try to boot in Color mode from
the harddrive.  Instead of booting the PC you get a really nasty crash,
fireworks and all.   The solution is to delete one of the files in the
PC/system directory (I forget which one) and let the Bridgeboard software
create this file itself.  Hope this helps.

I am going to take my computer back to the dealer.  He said he would call
Commodore and see if they have a fix for the A2286/A2000.  I'll post the
results when I get more info.