lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (07/30/90)
In <27534@swrinde.nde.swri.edu>, kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes: >Help!! > >I ran: >> prodprep device scsi.device unit 5 >on my 1.5 meg Quantum (device 5). Now HDTools thinks it is a bootable 40 >Meg Quantum & things have just gone downhill from there... > >Now Format can't even find the drive to try & format it. > >Question: >How in the world do I get my 105 Meg Quantum back? > >This all started because about every time I copied a directory from the >40 Meg Quantum to the 105 Meg, the copy locked up & I had to reboot, >etc. > >Multiple tries at reformatting the 105 Meg accomplished nothing. I >figured that if I prepped it, things would look up. Guess I was wrong. The trouble is in what 'prodprep' does, I believe. I ran into the same thing, and though I can't remember what all I did to get out of it, I DO remember that it was a long and frustrating process, ending in my doing something that was quite simple and basic. Problems had to do with the drive it actually ran on (SCSI address 6), and the name of the partitions on it. I think your best bet is to do something like this: 1. remove the Q40 from the system. 2. run HDToolbox from floppy, preferably from the boot floppy. a. Use the 'read info from drive' option to get the appropriate data b. make sure the name of the drive is something different from the Q40 3. add the Q40 back into the system. Good luck. -larry -- Sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) (07/30/90)
Help!!
I ran:
> prodprep device scsi.device unit 5
on my 1.5 meg Quantum (device 5). Now HDTools thinks it is a bootable 40
Meg Quantum & things have just gone downhill from there...
Now Format can't even find the drive to try & format it.
Question:
How in the world do I get my 105 Meg Quantum back?
This all started because about every time I copied a directory from the
40 Meg Quantum to the 105 Meg, the copy locked up & I had to reboot,
etc.
Multiple tries at reformatting the 105 Meg accomplished nothing. I
figured that if I prepped it, things would look up. Guess I was wrong.
Thanks Much,
Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (512) 522-2882
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
UUCP : $ {cs.utexas.edu, gatech!petro, sun!texsun}!swrinde!kent
kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) (07/31/90)
In article <27534@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes: > >Help!! > >I ran: >> prodprep device scsi.device unit 5 >on my 1.5 meg Quantum (device 5). Now HDTools thinks it is a bootable 40 >Meg Quantum & things have just gone downhill from there... Please excuse. I got things straightened out. Very confusing, but things are better now. Apparently HDtoolbox gets its info from the drives themselves while Drive Definitions uses the saved table. Anyway, I was stuck using HDToolBox, since it refused to accept that the 105 Meg was anything but a 40 MEg. Luckily, Drive Definitions allowed me to change the drive type after I had read it from the drive. Then I managed to get it repartitioned. When leaving the partitioning activity, it told me that all info in DH0: would be destroyed. Well... Dh0: is the 40 Meg & Qdh0: is the 105 Meg, so I aborted. Found no way to assure me that the 40 Meg would be destroyed, so I ended up unplugged the SCSI cable to the 40 Meg it before exiting partitioning. After a few other such incidents, I managed to get QDH0: up and formatted correctly. Strange. Thanks anyway, Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (512) 522-2882 Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu UUCP : $ {cs.utexas.edu, gatech!petro, sun!texsun}!swrinde!kent
greg@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Greg Harp) (07/31/90)
In article <27534@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes: >on my 1.5 meg Quantum (device 5). ^^^ Wow! I guess Quantum has decided to make really _small_ HD's now too! :-) >Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (512) 522-2882 >Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu >UUCP : $ {cs.utexas.edu, gatech!petro, sun!texsun}!swrinde!kent greg... _ _ Disclaimer: "What I _really_ meant was..." AMIGA! //// //// "Run to the bedroom, in the suitcase on the left you'll find my _ _ //// favorite axe." --Roger Waters, Pink Floyd's The Wall, One of My Turns \\\\//// \\XX// Greg Harp greg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) (07/31/90)
In article <27535@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.UUCP (Kent D. Polk) writes: >In article <27534@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes: ... >>I ran: >>> prodprep device scsi.device unit 5 >>on my 1.5 meg Quantum (device 5). Now HDTools thinks it is a bootable 40 >>Meg Quantum & things have just gone downhill from there... >Apparently HDtoolbox gets its info from the drives themselves while >Drive Definitions uses the saved table. Anyway, I was stuck using HDToolBox, >since it refused to accept that the 105 Meg was anything but a 40 MEg. The problem was that you ran prodprep on it, which is set up to only handle 40Meg quantums. It stored that information on the drive. >Luckily, Drive Definitions allowed me to change the drive type after I had >read it from the drive. Then I managed to get it repartitioned. Yes, that's how you're supposed to handle installing new drives. >When leaving the partitioning activity, it told me that all info in >DH0: would be destroyed. Well... Dh0: is the 40 Meg & Qdh0: is the 105 >Meg, so I aborted. Found no way to assure me that the 40 Meg would be >destroyed, so I ended up unplugged the SCSI cable to the 40 Meg it >before exiting partitioning. You had prodpreped the other drive, which gave the default partition name to it. Selecting a new drive type of course meant any information of the DH0 partition on the Q105 would be lost (most people name their partitions different names). It would not have touched your other drive, it was just warning you than any information on the Q105 DH0: partition would be lost. >After a few other such incidents, I managed to get QDH0: up and formatted >correctly. Glad it worked out. The manual has a section on how to add new drives that should have been sufficient to get you through this. -- Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering. {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com BIX: rjesup Common phrase heard at Amiga Devcon '89: "It's in there!"
kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) (07/31/90)
In article <13529@cbmvax.commodore.com> jesup@cbmvax (Randell Jesup) writes: > > Glad it worked out. The manual has a section on how to add new drives >that should have been sufficient to get you through this. Thanks for the info. I had followed the manual section when the drive was first installed a couple of months ago. I have re-installed the drive 5 times since then because of the failures which destroyed all access to the drive when the O.S. locked up (I have reformatted it about 12 times). This situation left the drive light on continuously and any access to either hard drive caused the machine to reboot (no Guru - just a reboot). I reload all system software almost every time (even tried from my other system originals). I was looking for some other way to solve my problem since the standard method described in the manual didn't fix anything. I had located two files which, when read, would cause this activity every time I tried to access them. I would have loved to have copied them so you guys could take a look at them, but... Trying to copy the damaged file to a partition on my other hard disk also trashes that partition. Validate runs, but to no avail. This problem only originates when copying files from one hard disk to the other and only happens on the a2500/30/A2091. I have almost the identical configuration on my a2500/20/2090a and it has never experienced this problem. I'm beginning to think it is an 2091 problem and not a hard disk problem. ------------------------------------------------------------ To change the subject, Is there any fix to get the XT Bridgeboard to work with the A2500/30 without using Arp's Loadlib? Thanks much Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (512) 522-2882 Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu UUCP : $ {cs.utexas.edu, gatech!petro, sun!texsun}!swrinde!kent