[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] Shopping For Hard Drives..

ilios@pro-graphics.cts.com (James Sibley) (08/27/90)

    Greetings, 

        I am planning on purchasing a new hard drive soon and I'm looking for
some very SUBJECTIVE ideas about which of the following is the proper one to
buy.   I've been looking at the Quantum ProDrive 105MB, the SyQuest 44MB
Removeable, and the Fujitsu Drives in the M.A.S.T. articles of AmigaWorld.

       Now, I would greatly appreciate any horror stories or songs of praise
or just any information that you can offer about these drives or any other
drive that you think is wonderful and will make my life very happy.  Just for
the books, I have an Amiga 2500/30 with the A2091 controller and a Quantum
Pro-Drive 40MB already.  

       Thank you for listening and I hope to hear some good stories soon...

                                                     *Ilios*

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yorkw@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Willis F York) (08/27/90)

In article <4128@crash.cts.com> ilios@pro-graphics.cts.com (James Sibley) writes:
>
>    Greetings, 
>
>        I am planning on purchasing a new hard drive soon and I'm looking for
>some very SUBJECTIVE ideas about which of the following is the proper one to
>buy.   I've been looking at the Quantum ProDrive 105MB, the SyQuest 44MB
>Removeable, and the Fujitsu Drives in the M.A.S.T. articles of AmigaWorld.
>
 Well I have an A500 and about $500 to spend and i want Info/Suggestions
on the Low end Hard drives, (I'm just a Full time Student.)
so lets gat a conversation going,,


What's this i heat about SEAGATES BEING JUNK?
it it true, how do i tell a SEAGATE from other

Does Quantum make the Best drives? How come they dont make smaller drives
(ie about 30 meg? My range)

well any info is welcomed.

lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (08/29/90)

In <90240.215220JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu>, JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes:
>
>You should be able to find a controller and Quantum 50 meg for around
>$600-$700 now.  They probably don't make them smaller because there
>is less demand.  Believe me, you will use up 40 megs pretty fast.
>The first 10 are system stuff (lots of fonts, WB accessories, basic
>text editors and word processor, etc.)  You may last for a month or
>so with 25-30 megs free.  Then the HD no longer becomes a luxury but
>basic equipment, and it just becomes natural to load it up.  Within
>3 months you're deleting things for room.  It happened to me, and most
>everyone I know.  Trust us - you want 40 or 50 megs minimum.

The following is the best posting I have seen on this subject. Originally
posted on Compuserve.

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#: 101125 S15/Ramblings
    30-Apr-90  07:19:42
Sb: A3000 Hard Drive Size
Fm: Thomas Holaday/SYSOP 70407,534
To: Mike Schiller 76416,3065 (X)

One of the 25 MHz models has a 40 MByte hard drive, and the other one has a 100
MByte hard drive.  That means the first one will fill up in about three weeks,
and the second one will fill up in about five weeks.  Note that it only takes
66% more time to fill up 150% more space.  Research here (unpublished) suggests
that a 500 MByte hard drive will fill become full upon installation.  I believe
the major obstacle to the production of hard drives with capacities in excess
of a gigabyte is that they become full during manufacture and consequently have
no usable space available for formatting information, etc.

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-larry

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JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (08/29/90)

>>I am planning on purchasing a new hard drive soon and I'm looking for some
>>very SUBJECTIVE ideas about which of the following is the proper one to buy.
>
> Well I have an A500 and about $500 to spend and I want info/suggestions
>on the Low end Hard drives, (I'm just a full time student.)
>so lets gat a conversation going.

Ok.  Buy a Quantum.  It may cost a bit more, but you're paying for
quality, and in the long run, it is DEFINITELY worth it.

>What's this I hear about SEAGATES BEING JUNK?

There was just a very long post about Seagates explaining the
entire situation just a week ago.  Please read it.

>Does Quantum make the best drives? How come they dont make smaller drives
>(ie about 30 meg? My range)

You should be able to find a controller and Quantum 50 meg for around
$600-$700 now.  They probably don't make them smaller because there
is less demand.  Believe me, you will use up 40 megs pretty fast.
The first 10 are system stuff (lots of fonts, WB accessories, basic
text editors and word processor, etc.)  You may last for a month or
so with 25-30 megs free.  Then the HD no longer becomes a luxury but
basic equipment, and it just becomes natural to load it up.  Within
3 months you're deleting things for room.  It happened to me, and most
everyone I know.  Trust us - you want 40 or 50 megs minimum.

                                                            Kurt
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swarren@convex.com (Steve Warren) (08/29/90)

In article <90240.215220JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu>JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes:
>> Well I have an A500 and about $500 to spend and I want info/suggestions
>>on the Low end Hard drives, (I'm just a full time student.)
>>so lets gat a conversation going.
>
>Ok.  Buy a Quantum.  It may cost a bit more, but you're paying for
>quality, and in the long run, it is DEFINITELY worth it.
>
>>What's this I hear about SEAGATES BEING JUNK?

I talked to a fellow who quals hard drives.

He did not have a high opinion of either manufacturer (Seagate or Quantum).

He said that the best drive he'd ever qual'ed was a Micropolis.  When
they ran the electron microscope on the media (they run the drive and
then they tear it down and punch out a square for the E-scope) they
couldn't believe it had been run because it was so clean.  He said
that clean==long life.

This is second-hand information, so take it with a grain of salt.

I own a 155 Meg Micropolis 1/2-height 5-1/4" hard-drive which I bought
used over comp.sys.amiga for $700 (thanks, Stan).  It works well
for me except that I haven't figured out how to format it so that I
can take advantage of its speed (16-msec, 64Kbyte cache).  If anyone
out there has experience formatting a Micropolis on a Supra 4X4 for
speed, let me know what numbers you used (email preferred).  My Dperf2
numbers seem unreasonably low, so I believe I must have picked bad numbers
for the format.  The Micropolis was not on the list of supported drives.

One feature of this drive that I think is cool is that it has a built-in
write-protect.  By hooking up a toggle-switch to the front-panel connector
on the back of the drive you can toggle this drive into write-protect
mode at will.

There *are* smaller Micropolis drives out there for less.  You will just
have to shop for them.

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