eric@eklektik.UUCP (/dev/tty000) (09/08/90)
Where can I get information on the Rejuvenator? I see it advertized in Amiga World by a mail order company that claims it provides the Enhanced Chip Set, Fatter Agnus, 2.0 kickstart ROM, 1MB RAM, and a battery backed clock, for an Amiga 1000. Is all this true? How well does it work? How compatible is it with existing expansion hardware? (I have a 2MB starboard/stardrive.) Thanks for any info. -- --------------------------------------- Eric Kennedy eric@eklektik.pgh.pa.us (formerly ejkst@pitt.UUCP) ...pitt!idis!eklektik!eric
tracy@taishan.cinnet.com (Tracy S. Schuhwerk) (09/13/90)
>Where can I get information on the Rejuvenator? I see it advertized >in Amiga World by a mail order company that claims it provides the >Enhanced Chip Set, Fatter Agnus, 2.0 kickstart ROM, 1MB RAM, and a >battery backed clock, for an Amiga 1000. Is all this true? How well >does it work? How compatible is it with existing expansion hardware? >(I have a 2MB starboard/stardrive.) To get the best information, call or write the people who actually build and market the "Rejuvinator"! Here's the information: Expert Services 5912 Centennial Circle Florence, Kentucky 41041 Phone: (606) 371-9690 They can probably answer your questions about the "Rejuvinator" and if you have any in depth technical questions about the board they will be the best source of information. [DISCLAIMER: I don't actually work FOR Expert Services, I just do a ] [ little coding for them and finance their cars, homes, and vacations] [ with my purchases! :-) ] -- +----------------------+-----------------------------------------------+ | Tracy S. Schuhwerk | | +----------------------+ Nifty Signature Still Under Construction | | Amiga 3000... | | | What else can I say? | UUNET: uunet!taishan.cinnet.com!tracy | +----------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
al158305@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila) (09/14/90)
I've read about it too, including an intervue with the guy who designed it (sorry, I can't remember his name at the moment). It's said to word a-ok with practically all A1000 periphs, to the point that the designer said that he had the option of adding the gary chip (that the A500 has) to the board to control timing, but he didn't because he wanted to maintain A1000 timing as precise as possible for it to work ok with Lucas&Frances. He said that it also works ok with the flicker fixer (when you install it in it's video slot). Now for my question: does anybody know of an A1000 periph that can accept memory AND hard drive? Something like the partnerJr that appeared (and disapeared) some time ago; or does anybody have a setup with 8 megs (or the capacity for them) and hard drive together? And for the BIG question (that NOBODY has answered): Does anybody have an A1000 with max memory (8 megs or more), hard drive, accelerator AND rejuvenator? If somebody out there does, can you post your setup? Please? Pretty please with suger on top?? :) Well, enough rambling.... cu@the.mouse Gustavo Cordova al158305@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx sig: REAL computers have keyboard garages!! :)
mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) (09/14/90)
In article <AL158305.90Sep13112801@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> al158305@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila) writes:
Now for my question: does anybody know of an A1000 periph that
can accept memory AND hard drive? Something like the partnerJr that
appeared (and disapeared) some time ago; or does anybody have a setup
with 8 megs (or the capacity for them) and hard drive together?
Do it right. There are a couple of expansion boxes that accept a pair
of Zorro II cards. Buy one of those, then add a memory card and hard
disk card. Viola, everything you asked for. That's a much more stable
configuration than two SOTS cards.
<mike
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In Kizmiaz ... Kizmiazsjk@ut-emx (bob) (09/14/90)
mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) writes: al158305@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila) writes: > > Now for my question: does anybody know of an A1000 periph that > can accept memory AND hard drive? Something like the partnerJr that > appeared (and disapeared) some time ago; or does anybody have a setup > with 8 megs (or the capacity for them) and hard drive together? > > Do it right. There are a couple of expansion boxes that accept a pair > of Zorro II cards. Buy one of those, then add a memory card and hard > disk card. Viola, everything you asked for. That's a much more stable > configuration than two SOTS cards. > Be careful here, though. A bought a Toolbox a year and a half ago from my 1000 in hopes of just adding a hard drive. I still do not have a working system. These expansion boxes are just not very stable or compatible. I've had controllers that both the controller and Toolbox manufacturers insist will work in the Toolbox not work. And I have grounded my PALS. I'd stay away from these boxes if I had it to do over again. The idea is much better, but the reality is that these boxes (or at least the two I've tried) just do not work. If you must buy one, buy the entire setup from one dealer and try it out all together before you buy it. If you can't try it out in person, make sure they will help you (refund?) if it doesn't work as advertised. Based on my experiences, I'd get this in writing. Good luck. Scot sjk@astro.as.utexas.edu
d6b@psuecl.bitnet (09/14/90)
In article <MWM.90Sep13171032@raven.pa.dec.com>, mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) writes: > Do it right. There are a couple of expansion boxes that accept a pair > of Zorro II cards. Buy one of those, then add a memory card and hard > disk card. Viola, everything you asked for. That's a much more stable > configuration than two SOTS cards. I saw one of those expansion boxes (open) at an AmiExpo last March. It literally just passed the bus signals to the 2 or 3 slots that it had - no buffering, no nothing. It's identical - perhaps worse, actually - than two SOTS cards! A chat with Bill Seymore (hardware guru...hope I got the spelling right) confirmed that **there is no ZorroII expansion backplane available for the 500/1000**. Buyer beware. -- Dan Babcock
thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) (09/14/90)
al158305@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila) in <AL158305.90Sep13112801@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> writes: And for the BIG question (that NOBODY has answered): Does anybody have an A1000 with max memory (8 megs or more), hard drive, accelerator AND rejuvenator? If somebody out there does, can you post your setup? Please? Pretty please with suger on top?? :) Well, you did ask. Following describes an A1000 circa August 1985. The "figlist", "cpu", "avail" and "info" programs are my own creations 'cause I prefer their output formats; they're on many BBS systems. The "accelerator" is the Ronin 020/881 with 4MB RAM, the other two 2MB RAM boxes are Comspec AX2000 units, and the HD interface is a Supra 4x4. The Genlock is the A1300 (S/N either 025 or 075 (cannot read it well in the dark) from 1st production run). The rejuvenator is from The Grapevine Group and is sitting on my desk since I've been trying it in some other A1000 systems, but it DOES work in this system (and the others in which I've tried it). CLI6> src:figlist/figlist Board 1, Manufacturer 1006 [03ee] = ComSpec Communications Memory used = 2MB Product Code = 1 Serial Number = 0 Board Address = 0x200000 Board Size = 2097152 Board 2, Manufacturer 1006 [03ee] = ComSpec Communications Memory used = 2MB Product Code = 1 Serial Number = 0 Board Address = 0x400000 Board Size = 2097152 Board 3, Manufacturer 1056 [0420] = Supra Corporation Memory used = 64KB Product Code = 1 Serial Number = 0 Board Address = 0xe90000 Board Size = 65536 CLI6> cpu The CPU is a 68020 with a 68881 The video is NTSC and system clocking is from a GenLock CLI6> avail Type Size In-Use Available Largest chip 515,864 246,584 269,280 268,336 fast 8,388,568 1,688,616 6,699,952 3,591,504 $C00 0 0 0 0 >16M 0 0 0 0 total 8,904,432 1,935,200 6,969,232 CLI6> info v Mounted Disks: Unit Size Used Free Full Errs Status Name DH61: 45M 46993 43326 52% 0 Read/Write SYS6B DH60: 45M 83535 8093 91% 0 Read/Write SYS6A DH50: 302M 313402 291486 51% 0 Read/Write SYS5 DH24: 26M 53239 9 99% 0 Read/Write SYS2E DH23: 50M 101243 5 99% 0 Read/Write SYS2D DH22: 50M 95764 5484 94% 0 Read/Write SYS2C DH21: 50M 100712 536 99% 0 Read/Write SYS2B DH20: 50M 56271 44977 55% 0 Read/Write SYS2A DF2: No disk present DF1: No disk present RAM: 375K 748 0 100% 0 Read/Write RamDisk DF0: 880K 813 945 46% 0 Read Only SupraBoot CLI6> Thad Floryan [ thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ..!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad ]
daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (09/15/90)
In article <1990Sep14.025106.20615@psuecl.bitnet> d6b@psuecl.bitnet writes: >In article <MWM.90Sep13171032@raven.pa.dec.com>, mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) writes: >> Do it right. There are a couple of expansion boxes that accept a pair >> of Zorro II cards. Buy one of those, then add a memory card and hard >> disk card. Viola, everything you asked for. That's a much more stable >> configuration than two SOTS cards. >I saw one of those expansion boxes (open) at an AmiExpo last March. It >literally just passed the bus signals to the 2 or 3 slots that it had - >no buffering, no nothing. It's identical - perhaps worse, actually - >than two SOTS cards! I haven't looked at any of these, but I sort of figured there might be some cheapness in the logic going on. Which really is a shame; we're only talking about $10-$15 parts cost for a full, 100% compatible Zorro II backplane; any design has to pay for circuit board, connectors, power supply, case, etc. One of these days I should really design a 2 or 3 slot circuit that's proper and write it up as an article or something. I don't have the time, but it seems that no one's willing to take our 5 slot example as a starting point for these smaller boxes. An A500 isn't really much different than an A2000 plus an expansion box; I designed the A2000(b) by taking the A500 schematics at the time and adding extra logic (which became the original thin Buster) to perform the expansion bus functions. >A chat with Bill Seymore (hardware guru...hope I got the spelling right) Bill definitely seems to know his stuff. He's a guy to be trusted. >confirmed that **there is no ZorroII expansion backplane available for the >500/1000**. Buyer beware. I don't personally know of any still in production that are full Zorro II compatible, or even close (there are a small number of Zorro II features which you don't have to implement in a backplane to be 100% compatible with what exists today, since a few Zorro II features weren't fully supported by the OS). If anyone making such boxes think they have one, I would be more than willing to look over the design and give it my personal Okey Dokey (I can't speak for Commodore itself of course) if it looks OK; we could certainly use such a box to help eliminate some of this multiple SOTS nonsense going on in the A500 market. >-- Dan Babcock -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Get that coffee outta my face, put a Margarita in its place!
martens@catamaran.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) (09/15/90)
In article <MWM.90Sep13171032@raven.pa.dec.com> mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) writes: >In article <AL158305.90Sep13112801@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx> al158305@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila) writes: . Now for my question: does anybody know of an A1000 periph that . can accept memory AND hard drive? Something like the partnerJr that . appeared (and disapeared) some time ago; or does anybody have a setup . with 8 megs (or the capacity for them) and hard drive together? The Starboard II will handle 2MB and has an optional SCSI interface. -- -- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu) Currently popular among Iraqi tank commanders: little yellow signs proclaiming "Child on board."