[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] Coprocessor for amiga ?????

soverlies@cc.curtin.edu.au (09/19/90)

   I  have one question  ........... 
   Does any body know of any coprocessor boards that are available
  for the amiga, that run a non-68000 series processor ?? 
    - and some idea of what they cost.

  I am refering to a high speed coprocessor, such as an arm29000 or 88000,
 transputer, etc...


  Please post a reply, if you definitely know of such boards (no vapour-ware).


  Ian O...

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ifarqhar@sunc.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Ian Farquhar) (09/20/90)

In article <3625.26f76b3d@cc.curtin.edu.au> soverlies@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>  I am refering to a high speed coprocessor, such as an arm29000 or 88000,
> transputer, etc...

Well, the item I'm posting about is vaporware, but CBM vaporware.  It is,
of course, the Commodore Transputer boards running Helios.  I've even got
those technical notes from the DevCon about the boards, but I have not
heard a thing about them since.

Does anyone from CBM want to comment as to what has happenned to these
interesting little peripherals?
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schweige@aldebaran.cs.nps.navy.mil (jeffrey schweiger) (09/21/90)

In article <537@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> ifarqhar@sunc.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Ian Farquhar) writes:
>In article <3625.26f76b3d@cc.curtin.edu.au> soverlies@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>>  I am refering to a high speed coprocessor, such as an arm29000 or 88000,
>> transputer, etc...
>
>Well, the item I'm posting about is vaporware, but CBM vaporware.  It is,
>of course, the Commodore Transputer boards running Helios.  I've even got
>those technical notes from the DevCon about the boards, but I have not
>heard a thing about them since.

I don't recall CBM (especially the US marketing organization that is the
user of the name) ever announcing a transputer product for the Amiga.  I
have seen third party transputer products advertised for the Amiga.  
SANG Computer Systems is listed in the Transputer White Pages as having a
"MEGA-Link Interface" board for the Amiga, which allows the use of SANG's
MEGA-Link series of transputer boards.


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tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson) (09/21/90)

In article <537@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> ifarqhar@sunc.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Ian Farquhar) writes:
-In article <3625.26f76b3d@cc.curtin.edu.au> soverlies@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
->  I am refering to a high speed coprocessor, such as an arm29000 or 88000,
-> transputer, etc...
-
-Well, the item I'm posting about is vaporware, but CBM vaporware.  It is,
-of course, the Commodore Transputer boards running Helios.  I've even got
-those technical notes from the DevCon about the boards, but I have not
-heard a thing about them since.
-
-Does anyone from CBM want to comment as to what has happenned to these
-interesting little peripherals?
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-Ian Farquhar                      Phone : 61 2 805-9403
-Office of Computing Services      Fax   : 61 2 805-7433
-Macquarie University  NSW  2109   Also  : 61 2 805-7205
-Australia                         EMail : ifarqhar@suna.mqcc.mq.oz.au

I saw two transputer Amigas running, and running well, 1 1/2 year ago.
One possible problem was that no-one seemed interested in them. Many
people (me included) were interested in the CBM officially announced
A2090B (SlotWaster), which has never seen its birth. I've heard a
third-party developer has announced one now...

ckp@grebyn.com (Checkpoint Technologies) (09/22/90)

In article <537@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> ifarqhar@sunc.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Ian Farquhar) writes:
>Well, the item I'm posting about is vaporware, but CBM vaporware.  It is,
>of course, the Commodore Transputer boards running Helios.  I've even got
>those technical notes from the DevCon about the boards, but I have not
>heard a thing about them since.

I heard Commodore dropped the project when they found out what the
68040 would do.  And it's just as well; the T800's 10 MIPS and 2
MFLOPS don't stack up to the 68040's 15+ MIPS and 3.5 MFLOPS, and you
get to run all your old programs that fast too.

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ifarqhar@sunc.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Ian Farquhar) (09/22/90)

In article <1448@aldebaran.cs.nps.navy.mil> schweige@cs.nps.navy.mil (jeffrey schweiger) writes:
>I don't recall CBM (especially the US marketing organization that is the
>user of the name) ever announcing a transputer product for the Amiga.  I
>have seen third party transputer products advertised for the Amiga.  
>SANG Computer Systems is listed in the Transputer White Pages as having a
>"MEGA-Link Interface" board for the Amiga, which allows the use of SANG's
>MEGA-Link series of transputer boards.

Referring to the notes from the "2nd European Amiga Developers
Conference", the section entitled "A2000 Transputer Concept" by Dieter
Preiss of Commodore Braunschweig, West Germany.  It describes a
Commodore developed set of boards running the Helios operating system
and designed for the A2000.

The basic kit is the root transputer board, and the Helios OS.  The root
board is a T414 (15 MHz) and 1M of RAM, expandable to 4M of RAM.  The
T414 can be replaced by a T800.  The root board uses the C0012 device to
link to the Amiga.

A further board is available with 4 transputers, meaning that a total of
17 transputers per Amiga is possible.  By using a hardware link, more
Amigas can be used, up to 65536 transputers in total all of which act
like one big machine under Helios.

Refer to the notes for more details.

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schweige@suns2.cs.nps.navy.mil (jeffrey schweiger) (09/23/90)

In article <550@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> ifarqhar@sunc.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Ian Farquhar) writes:
|In article <1448@aldebaran.cs.nps.navy.mil> schweige@cs.nps.navy.mil (jeffrey schweiger) writes:
|>I don't recall CBM (especially the US marketing organization that is the
|>user of the name) ever announcing a transputer product for the Amiga.  

[some of my previous posting deleted]

|Referring to the notes from the "2nd European Amiga Developers
|Conference", the section entitled "A2000 Transputer Concept" by Dieter
                                                     ^^^^^^^
|Preiss of Commodore Braunschweig, West Germany.  It describes a
|Commodore developed set of boards running the Helios operating system
|and designed for the A2000.

[summary of technical characteristics deleted]

The posting that prompted my original response dealt with a comment calling
a CBM transputer product 'vaporware'.  I'll readily acknowledge that someone
at some division of Commodore was investigating a transputer application.
However, to me at least, notes on a 'concept' from a developers conference do
not qualify as a product announcement.  Unless an announcement is made that
a product is intended for release (and this announcement should probably
come from the appropriate marketing people), the lack of that product does not
qualify as 'vaporware' (IMHO, :) ).

(This doesn't mean that I wouldn't mind seeing the product :-)  )

Jeff Schweiger


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davidm@uunet.UU.NET (David S. Masterson) (09/24/90)

In article <22154@grebyn.com> ckp@grebyn.com (Checkpoint Technologies) writes:

   In article <537@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> ifarqhar@sunc.mqcc.mq.oz.au 
   (Ian Farquhar) writes:
   >Well, the item I'm posting about is vaporware, but CBM vaporware.  It is,
   >of course, the Commodore Transputer boards running Helios.  I've even got
   >those technical notes from the DevCon about the boards, but I have not
   >heard a thing about them since.

   I heard Commodore dropped the project when they found out what the
   68040 would do.  And it's just as well; the T800's 10 MIPS and 2
   MFLOPS don't stack up to the 68040's 15+ MIPS and 3.5 MFLOPS, and you
   get to run all your old programs that fast too.

Perhaps, but weren't the T800s additive in nature.  I thought I heard of a 4
(or was it 8) processor Amiga system that was supposedly capable of 120 MIPS.
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Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Gareth Bull) (09/24/90)

In article <1462@suns2.cs.nps.navy.mil>, schweige@suns2.cs.nps.navy.mil (jeffrey schweiger) writes:
>
> The posting that prompted my original response dealt with a comment calling
> a CBM transputer product 'vaporware'.  I'll readily acknowledge that someone
> at some division of Commodore was investigating a transputer application.
> However, to me at least, notes on a 'concept' from a developers conference do
> not qualify as a product announcement.  Unless an announcement is made that
> a product is intended for release (and this announcement should probably
> come from the appropriate marketing people), the lack of that product does not
> qualify as 'vaporware' (IMHO, :) ).
>
> (This doesn't mean that I wouldn't mind seeing the product :-)  )

        For what it's worth, I have an issue of INFO which has a 1 page review,
including photos, of a C= transputer board for the Amiga which was being
developed in Germany. Since then I've heard nothing. The article stated that
the board was still at a prototype stage.

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