[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] Amiga 2000 Power supply problem

hinker@acl.lanl.gov (Paul J. Hinker) (10/24/90)

   I think I have a problem with the power supply in my Amiga 2000.  About a
month ago, I added a 2-Meg card (complete with memory) to my machine.  Since
then there's been a high pitched whine coming from the back of the machine.
I thought that it was just my fan finally giving up the ghost but now I'm not
too sure.  

   I was crunching along on a ray-trace a couple of nights ago when all of
a sudden the machine just went dead.  Now when I turn it on, the power light
comes on and the disk drives start to spin up and then it shuts off.  Like
a breaker going out.  The lights only stay on maybe a second and then nothing.

   Is this a power supply problem or something more insidious?  The fuse in
the power supply is good and there don't seem to be any shorts that I can 
detect.

   Any help would be greatly appreciated,

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bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson) (10/25/90)

In article <HINKER.90Oct24083326@grizzly.acl.lanl.gov> hinker@acl.lanl.gov writes:
>
>   I think I have a problem with the power supply in my Amiga 2000.  About a

    [...]

>   I was crunching along on a ray-trace a couple of nights ago when all of
>a sudden the machine just went dead.  Now when I turn it on, the power light
>comes on and the disk drives start to spin up and then it shuts off.  Like
>a breaker going out.  The lights only stay on maybe a second and then nothing.
>
>   Is this a power supply problem or something more insidious?  The fuse in
>the power supply is good and there don't seem to be any shorts that I can 
>detect.

I had a very similar problem with my 2500 and it proved to be the switch
on the power supply. It happens :)

>Paul Hinker hinker@acl.lanl.gov

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peck@ral.rpi.edu (Joseph Peck) (10/25/90)

In article <HINKER.90Oct24083326@grizzly.acl.lanl.gov> hinker@acl.lanl.gov writes:
>   I was crunching along on a ray-trace a couple of nights ago when all of
>a sudden the machine just went dead.  Now when I turn it on, the power light
>comes on and the disk drives start to spin up and then it shuts off.  Like
>a breaker going out.  The lights only stay on maybe a second and then nothing.
>
>   Is this a power supply problem or something more insidious?  The fuse in
>the power supply is good and there don't seem to be any shorts that I can 
>detect.

This is almost a me too post.... My roommates 2000 has the same problem.
He has an 8UP! board with 4megs, and an xt bridgeboard.  His made a buzzing
noise for a while, but I could almost swear that it actually was his fan.
Now when he turns it on, the power light comes on for about a second,
and then shuts off.  I took out the two boards, but to no avail.

So, if anyone has any ideas, there are at least two people interested
in them.  Any help would be appreciated.

>
>   Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>
>--
>Paul Hinker hinker@acl.lanl.gov    ///  If it works, it's not state-of-the-art
>MS B287	    505-665-4531          ///                           --Hansen's Law
>Los Alamos National Labs ACL  \\\///    All our stuff is broke
>Los Alamos, NM  87545          \XX/                    --Forslund's Corollary

Joe Peck
peck@ral.rpi.edu

It's hard to install and test a 14Mhz hack when you only get one second
to test it..... :(

ath@lcs.mit.edu (Andrew Heybey) (10/25/90)

In article <%=5%0A$@rpi.edu> peck@ral.rpi.edu (Joseph Peck) writes:

   This is almost a me too post.... My roommates 2000 has the same problem.
   He has an 8UP! board with 4megs, and an xt bridgeboard.  His made a buzzing
   noise for a while, but I could almost swear that it actually was his fan.
   Now when he turns it on, the power light comes on for about a second,
   and then shuts off.  I took out the two boards, but to no avail.

   So, if anyone has any ideas, there are at least two people interested
   in them.  Any help would be appreciated.

It may very well be the fan.  If the fan doesn't start (and thus draw
current from the +12V supply), the supply goes overvoltage and shuts
itself down.  Or so I was told when a similar problem happened to me.

This *seems* to be confirmed by the behavior of my A2000.  My fan will
not reliably start itself.  If I just turn the computer on, I get the
one second burst of power, followed by nothing.  If I turn the
computer on while spinning the fan (so that it will start--it runs
fine after that), everything works fine.

Try replacing your fan & seeing what happens.  I haven't replaced
mine, yet.  My wife thinks that I'm nuts for living with a computer
that I have to turn on by sticking a toothpick in the back while
flipping the switch.

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jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith) (10/26/90)

In article <HINKER.90Oct24083326@grizzly.acl.lanl.gov> hinker@acl.lanl.gov writes:
>a sudden the machine just went dead.  Now when I turn it on, the power light
>comes on and the disk drives start to spin up and then it shuts off.  Like
>a breaker going out.  The lights only stay on maybe a second and then nothing.

That is the exact description of a burned out fan.  I know, I had to replace
the fan on my A2000.  If the power supply detects that the fan is not drawing
any current, it shuts down.  Watch the fan as you turn on the power.  If it
does not rev up to full speed in that first half second, you have located
your problem.  (You can verify this by unplugging the fan from the power
supply and checking the fan's continuity with an ohm meter.)
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LDSHANER@MTUS5.BITNET (Leon D. Shaner) (10/30/90)

I had a similar problem, but with no noises...

I just came in one day and the machine wasn't powered down (I run a BBS, so it
is normally up 24 Hours)  I thought some moron had shut it off...  Anyway, the
switch was on and so I didn't know what to think...  I turned it off and back
and it came on...  After about a minute it just shut down...  I had a window
fan going when I first tried it, so I didn't notice that the fan in the power
supply was not working...  I tested the voltage at the fan's contact leads and
it was roughly 12 volts as required...

Turns out, the fan was bad and the PS new it, so it would shut down...

I went to RadioShack and bought one of their $15.00 fans that have exactly the
same power ratings, and installed it...  The thing was fatter, so I had to put
the screws in differently than the original...  Right now, it is making the
most horrible noise - I'm going to have to replace it again, soon, so I'm going
to try to find a source for the original fan, since it lasted over 2.5 years...

Good luck...