[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] Problem when booting A2620 card

jim@syteke.be (Jim Sanchez) (12/03/90)

I hope someone has seen this before but when I boot my 2000 w/A2620
card in the "both mouse buttons pushed" mode I get an error message to
the effect "Out of config memory" or something similiar.  If I then
try to enter the 68000 mode, the system hangs up.  I don't try and do
this very often so it could have been this way quite a while.  I
upgraded the on-card memory to 4 MB and am not sure I tried it in this
way after this.  Any clues out there?
thanks
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felixh@tsunami.Berkeley.EDU (Felix Hack) (12/05/90)

In article <1719@syteke.be> jim@syteke.be (Jim Sanchez) writes:
>I hope someone has seen this before but when I boot my 2000 w/A2620
>card in the "both mouse buttons pushed" mode I get an error message to
>the effect "Out of config memory" or something similiar.  If I then
>try to enter the 68000 mode, the system hangs up.  I don't try and do
>this very often so it could have been this way quite a while.  I
>upgraded the on-card memory to 4 MB and am not sure I tried it in this
>way after this.  Any clues out there?
>thanks

  I too get this message when trying to boot into the 68000 on
my 2000, equipped with A2620 (2 Meg 32-bit RAM), Trumpcard
SCSI interface, and Meta-4 Memory board (2 Meg 16-bit RAM).
  However, the system doesn't hang, it works just fine
in 68000 mode (where the 2 MB of 16 bit Fast RAM are really
nice).
  Is there some explanation for this?  Should I be wary
of upgrading to 4 MB 32-bit RAM for fear of losing
68000 compatibility entirely?  What upgrading to 
Trumpcard Pro, will that work in 68000 mode?
 
 BTW:  Just got a 2630 w/ SONY 1320 VGA . . . FANTASTIC !!!!

Thanks,
  Felix

felixh@avalanche.Berkeley.EDU (Felix Hack) (12/05/90)

 Err, that's a 2320 (NOT 2630) card and SONY VGA.  Sorry 'bout that.

  Felix

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (12/06/90)

In article <1990Dec4.201722.3506@agate.berkeley.edu> felixh@tsunami.Berkeley.EDU (Felix Hack) writes:
>In article <1719@syteke.be> jim@syteke.be (Jim Sanchez) writes:
>>I hope someone has seen this before but when I boot my 2000 w/A2620
>>card in the "both mouse buttons pushed" mode I get an error message to
>>the effect "Out of config memory" or something similiar.  If I then
>>try to enter the 68000 mode, the system hangs up.  

>  I too get this message when trying to boot into the 68000 on
>my 2000, equipped with A2620 (2 Meg 32-bit RAM), Trumpcard
>SCSI interface, and Meta-4 Memory board (2 Meg 16-bit RAM).
>  However, the system doesn't hang, it works just fine
>in 68000 mode (where the 2 MB of 16 bit Fast RAM are really
>nice).

There are two problems at work here.  The double-mouse-button-reset trick will
kick in the autoconfig routines found in the A26x0 ROM.  Some early versions
of this ROM get confused about certain autoconfig devices, especially 128K
autoconfig units.  The best solution, if you don't like the "out of config
memory" message, is to order the latest ROMs from Commodore service.  Though
you really shouldn't need them for normal AmigaOS operation.

The ROM problem shouldn't cause a crash with the 68000 on, but you can easily
crash when changing from '020 or '030 to 68000.  This is basically an AmigaOS
anomoly, caused by the fact that AmigaOS was never built expect the CPU type
to change between warm boots.  Basically, when you power up, Exec is built up
from scratch, including placement of all the CPU type specific goodies.  When
you reboot, Exec looks around, sees that it's still living, and doesn't try
to rebuild everything, including the CPU type stuff.  So going straight from
68020/30 to 68000 operation causes the '020/'030 code to be in place for the
68000, which give you a great crash.  You can safely get to the 68000 either
by directly cold booting into it, or (if you have SetCPU V1.6), typing
"SetCPU ROMBOOT" to reset your system and erase ExecBase, of course grabbing
the mouse buttons after you give the command.

>  Felix


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felixh@tempest.Berkeley.EDU (Felix Hack) (12/07/90)

  Re:  New ROMs in 26x0 card.

    When I noticed the "config out of memory" message I mentioned
it to my local Amiga technician.  He swapped two ROMs from the
A2620, the old ones both had some numbers ending in "-1",
the new ones ended in "-2".  The message still occurs.  Is
there an even later version of these ROMs?