[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] New MOTHERBOARDS for EVERY AMIGA MODEL from Commodore????

jraja@niksula.hut.fi (Jarno Rajahalme) (01/04/91)

In the January number of the German amiga magazine (Markt & Technik page 18)
Helmut Jost from Commodore talks about Commodores plans for 1991. He
tells that Commodore is going to announce new motherboards for all
Amiga models! (I hope I got it right, my German isn't good.)

Could anyone from Commodore (Dave?) verify this? Does this mean new
motherboard for my loved A1000 too? What features are added to these
boards? Flickerfixer? etc.

Also does anyone of you know anything about Australian Phoenix
replacement motherboard for A1000? Someone said that it includes even
an SCSI-controller on the motherboard.

	Jarno
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Keith.Stewart@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (01/04/91)

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[B[B[B[B[B[B[B[BThe last piece of the posting asked about the
PHOENIX motherboard from Australia. I got this off an Australian disk
magazine I subscribe to. This is for the A1000
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                               The Phoenix Board
 
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    As of 6th of December we have received 275 deposits. Deposits have
   been received from all states of Australia, New Zealand, Denmark and
   Switzerland. 275 deposits ($27,500) is enough to cover R&D costs of
   the board. We still need money, however, in the form of deposits
   and/or major shareholders, to enable us to buy necessary equipment,
   lease premises and employ staff. In an effort to attract more
   deposits, the deadline has been extended until December 31st. This
   means that deposits received before this date will attract a 20%
   discount. Deposits received between January 1st and the start of
   production (sometime in mid-February) will attract a 10% discount.
 
    The SCSI port which was going to be an option in early releases, is
   now a definite inclusion. We have also decided, due to popular
demand,
   to implement Kickstart loading from disk as per the existing A1000.
   This is switchable from ROM loading, however, so it is up to you if
you
   wish to use disks. While using this option, 256K of memory is lost
   from the existing memory. However, when this option is not in use,
the
   full amount of memory is available.
 
    Although Phoenix MicroTechnologies PTY. LTD. is not yet trading, we
   thought it necessary to commence design work. A prototype Phoenix
   board has been designed and constructed. This is a cut-down version,
   with support for the Enhanced Chip Set, one megabtye of memory, a
clock
   and a SCSI port, plus a prototyping area for development of further
   enhancements. We are using Andrew's existing CAD system, and because
   of limitations, it is not able to cope with a board as large and
   complex as the final Phoenix board will be.
 
    The database has been organised (finally) so receipts have
(hopefully)
   been sent to all depositees by the time this notice appears. Contact
   us if this is not the case.
 
    We still welcome enquiries from parties interested in acting as
   installation points in their respective states.
 
                                  Thanks for your continuing support,
 
                                     Jonathan Potter,
                                     Phoenix MicroTechnologies PTY. LTD.
 
 
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                             THE PHOENIX BOARD
 
                             15th November 1990
 
 
    Ed: Here's the (final?) update from Phoenix - it's good to see that
it
   was done, thanks to the dogged persistence of Andrew Wilson & co.
 
 
 
    After many delays, the final version of the Phoenix Board is up and
   running, and has passed all tests. The first 6 depositors have been
   notified by mail, and the next 50 to 100 will be contacted sometime
in
   the coming week.
 
    The production Phoenix Board has all the features as originally
   stated, with a few extra features besides, including support for the
   new "Super Obese" Agnus that offers 2 megabytes of chip RAM (as found
   in the A3000). This provides a bridge between the 16-bit architecture
   of the lower caste Amigas and some of the advanced features of the
   A3000.
 
    We current have orders for over 600 boards, and we hope to mass
   produce them at the rate of 50 per week. In order to reach this
   target, a wave soldering machine has recently been purchased. This
   will enable much faster throughput of boards than would have been
   possible with manual soldering.
 
    All back orders should be processed by the end of February, 1991. We
   are receiving good co-operation from Commodore, and have enough
custom
   chips in stock for the first 200 boards. Phoenix will shortly become
a
   ComCare centre, and so there will be ample stocks of custom chips in
   the future. Mass production should start late this month.
 
    Approximately one month before your Phoenix Board will be ready, we
   will write to you, asking you to confirm your selection of options.
   Unless we hear from you to the contrary, we will assume the
information
   we have is correct and the options are those chosen by you to be
   supplied with your board.
 
    Phoenix may be contacted by phone on (08) 2938752, or by FAX on (08)
   2938814. Postal enquires should be addressed to P.O. Box 41,
   Goodwood, South Australia, 5034, or call at 18 Hampton Road, Keswick.
 
    We thank you once again for your patience and support. Without the
   original depositors, the Phoenix Board would not exist today.
 
                                      Andrew Wilson
                                      Dr. Michael Snow
 
 
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Looks good for A1000 owners especially the 2 meg of Chip RAM. A friend
is purchaser 100 so I will post a review of the board when he gets it.
-- 
 
Keith Stewart
 
B2000 Rev 4.5 2 Floppy Disk Drives  GVP Series II Controller/Ram

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (01/05/91)

In article <JRAJA.91Jan3211525@conan.hut.fi> jraja@niksula.hut.fi (Jarno Rajahalme) writes:

>In the January number of the German amiga magazine (Markt & Technik page 18)
>Helmut Jost from Commodore talks about Commodores plans for 1991. He
>tells that Commodore is going to announce new motherboards for all
>Amiga models! (I hope I got it right, my German isn't good.)

>Could anyone from Commodore (Dave?) verify this? Does this mean new
>motherboard for my loved A1000 too? What features are added to these
>boards? Flickerfixer? etc.

Doesn't sound like anything I'm working on.  Really, the only reasons to make
a new version of a motherboard is to [a] make it cheaper, [b] fix something,
or [c] make a new model.  I think it's highly unlikely at this point that C=
will make a replacement board for the A1000.  And they certainly would not use
the A1000 casework on a new system, there are lots of problems with that case,
mainly noise and production related (nothing _wrong_ with a keyboard garage,
of course).  Obviously, doing anything you mention is technically possible, 
but doesn't sound like it would make good business sense.

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chr@quack.hamm.sub.org (christian ruetgers) (01/07/91)

In article <JRAJA.91Jan3211525@conan.hut.fi>, Jarno Rajahalme writes:

>In the January number of the German amiga magazine (Markt & Technik page 18)
>Helmut Jost from Commodore talks about Commodores plans for 1991. He
>tells that Commodore is going to announce new motherboards for all
>Amiga models! (I hope I got it right, my German isn't good.)
Jost does not say this. Is is only a expectation from the Amiga Magazin to
the adress of Commodore.

	chr@quack.hamm.sub.org

dah@zoot.avgrp.cr.rok.com (Dave Haverkamp) (01/08/91)

   I would like to hear more details about the Phoenix Motherboard replacement.
Andrew Wilson worked here before returning to the land down under.  Shortly
after leaving he sent some initial spec's but we have not heard since.  Does
anyone have the current detials on pricing, options etc.?  Is there still
an option for a 881/882?  How many Meg of memory is it expandable to? 
(Original spec's were an expansion fast memory daughter board to allow
8 Meg of fast ram.)  Can a 68020 be used? Jumpers to set the MHz?

If more up to date specs can not be found, I can see if someone in our
club still has the original specs.
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