[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] Why no floppy card?

a186@mindlink.UUCP (Harvey Taylor) (01/13/91)

In <1991Jan3.003449.1@ccvax.iastate.edu>, taab5@ccvax.iastate.edu
           <in another group>             Marc Barrett writes:
|
|   CASE 5: HIGH-DENSITY FLOPPY DRIVES:
|   High-density 1.44MB 3.5" floppy drives have been available for PC/AT
| and 80386-based systems for several years.
|    [...]
|    Now that 2.88MB drives are becoming increasingly common,

    I am a little surprised that no third party manufacturer has thrown
 together a floppy controller card that would support regular IBMish
 2.88M, 1.44M & 720K drives. I'm sure a lot of people would much rather
 use the 2.88M disks for backups.
    -harvey

 "Let's see. George Bush is going to war to protect a feudal monarchy &
 it has nothing to do with oil? Tell that to a Tibetan, an East Timoran."
                                                           -lenny
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skipper@motaus.sps.mot.com (Skipper Smith) (01/15/91)

In article <4439@mindlink.UUCP> a186@mindlink.UUCP (Harvey Taylor) writes:
>In <1991Jan3.003449.1@ccvax.iastate.edu>, taab5@ccvax.iastate.edu
>           <in another group>             Marc Barrett writes:
>|
>|   CASE 5: HIGH-DENSITY FLOPPY DRIVES:
>|   High-density 1.44MB 3.5" floppy drives have been available for PC/AT
>| and 80386-based systems for several years.
>|    [...]
>|    Now that 2.88MB drives are becoming increasingly common,
>
>    I am a little surprised that no third party manufacturer has thrown
> together a floppy controller card that would support regular IBMish
> 2.88M, 1.44M & 720K drives. I'm sure a lot of people would much rather
> use the 2.88M disks for backups.
>    -harvey
>
> "Let's see. George Bush is going to war to protect a feudal monarchy &
> it has nothing to do with oil? Tell that to a Tibetan, an East Timoran."
>                                                           -lenny
>      Harvey Taylor      Meta Media Productions
>       uunet!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!Harvey_Taylor
>               a186@mindlink.UUCP

Why would anybody want to use a 2.88M floppy (that almost no one uses currently)
when they could get an Insite Peripheral's Floptical which holds 20M.  Before
anyone goes off and shouts "But they aren't shipping" I have talked with Insite
and they are shipping evaluation units right now (which is about all the 2.88M
drives are doing) and expect to be up to full volume RSN (as usual, whatever
that means).  This is a SCSI drive, so all you need is a SCSI controller instead
of hacking your 500 to add a new floppy controller, and it reads any format you
can program it to handle (with onboard ROM handling IBM 720K and 1.44M from the
factory).  They expect to be able to handle up to 80M on future versions of the
drive, but I wouldn't mind a 20M floppy right now.  This drive has been tested
on an Amiga 2000 with a 2091 controller and it DOES work with the Amiga with
no further hacking unless you want to read Amiga formatted disks with it- then
you are going to have to come up with some software to do that (I am sure some
enterprising hacker will do that quickly enough).
However, I certainly wouldn't use it for doing backups- with a 150 Mb hard drive
and soon a 535 Mb hard drive, tape is the only way to go :-)
 

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a186@mindlink.UUCP (Harvey Taylor) (01/15/91)

In <1991Jan14.181643.5@motaus.sps.mot.com>, skipper@motaus.sps.mot.com
                                                (Skipper Smith) writes:
:In <4439@mindlink.UUCP> a186@mindlink.UUCP (Harvey Taylor) writes:
:>In <1991Jan3.003449.1@ccvax.iastate.edu>, taab5@ccvax.iastate.edu
:>           <in another group>             Marc Barrett writes:
:>|
:>|   CASE 5: HIGH-DENSITY FLOPPY DRIVES:
:>
:>    I am a little surprised that no third party manufacturer has thrown
:> together a floppy controller card that would support regular IBMish
:> 2.88M, 1.44M & 720K drives. I'm sure a lot of people would much rather
:> use the 2.88M disks for backups.
:>    -harvey
:
:Why would anybody want to use a 2.88M floppy (that almost no one uses
currently)
:when they could get an Insite Peripheral's Floptical which holds 20M.

    Cost. For people with a <=100M hard drive, large floppies make sense.
  I'm sure a high capacity drive & card could be sold for ~US$200.00. Insite
  is what? >$500.00 without the controller?

:   [...]
: However, I certainly wouldn't use it for doing backups- with a 150 Mb hard
: drive and soon a 535 Mb hard drive, tape is the only way to go :-)

    Agreed. For large systems it makes sense. There are a couple of tape
 drives available now, but I imagine that when CBM ships SysVR4 (with tape
 drive), a lot more compatible systems will appear.
    -harvey

    "I'll help you if I can, I'll kill you if I must.
     I'll kill you if I can, I'll help you if I must.
     The peacock spreads his fan." -Cohen

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