[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] How does bridgeboard affect memory

terry@helios.ucsc.edu (Terry Ricketts) (01/17/91)

    I have heard references made about the amount of memory space that the
bridgeboard uses from the Amiga's pool. I have an A2286 bridgeboard & was
wondering what the limits on memory expansion are due to the presence of
that board. Thanks.


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drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) (01/17/91)

In article <11152@darkstar.ucsc.edu> terry@helios.ucsc.edu (Terry Ricketts) writes:
>
>    I have heard references made about the amount of memory space that the
>bridgeboard uses from the Amiga's pool. I have an A2286 bridgeboard & was
>wondering what the limits on memory expansion are due to the presence of
>that board. Thanks.

the bilgeboard takes up 2 meg of autoconfig space (2088 and 2286).

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peck@ral.rpi.edu (Joseph Peck) (01/17/91)

In article <759@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes:
>In article <758@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes:
>>In article <11152@darkstar.ucsc.edu> terry@helios.ucsc.edu (Terry Ricketts) writes:
>>>
>>>    I have heard references made about the amount of memory space that the
>>>bridgeboard uses from the Amiga's pool. I have an A2286 bridgeboard & was
>>>wondering what the limits on memory expansion are due to the presence of
>>>that board. Thanks.
>
>In another posting Scott Drysdale wrote:
>
>> the bilgeboard takes up 2 meg of autoconfig space (2088 and 2286).
>
>Sorry, my program tells only 512 KB for both.

Boy, I may not be batting 1000 so far, but one of my friends with
the 2088 claims that his manual states that the 2088 takes up a
2 meg chunk of autoconfig space. (boy, what an awkward sentence! :)

However, you should take this with a grain of salt considering my
attempt to explain where the memory of the A2630 resides :)

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daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (01/18/91)

In article <11152@darkstar.ucsc.edu> terry@helios.ucsc.edu (Terry Ricketts) writes:

>    I have heard references made about the amount of memory space that the
>bridgeboard uses from the Amiga's pool. I have an A2286 bridgeboard & was
>wondering what the limits on memory expansion are due to the presence of
>that board. Thanks.

According to my system here, a BridgeBoard uses 512K of memory space.  This
would limit your memory expansion to 7 Megs, though more likely 6 Megs or
4 Megs, depending on what you have in the way of memory expansion boards.
>
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drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) (01/18/91)

In article <759@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes:
>In article <758@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes:
>>In article <11152@darkstar.ucsc.edu> terry@helios.ucsc.edu (Terry Ricketts) writes:
>>>
>>>    I have heard references made about the amount of memory space that the
>>>bridgeboard uses from the Amiga's pool. I have an A2286 bridgeboard & was
>>>wondering what the limits on memory expansion are due to the presence of
>>>that board. Thanks.
>>
>>When I remember correctly, it takes 256 KB from the address space.
>
>I looked up the output of FindConfigDev() and it told me 512 KB.
>
>
>In another posting Scott Drysdale wrote:
>
>> the bilgeboard takes up 2 meg of autoconfig space (2088 and 2286).
>
>Sorry, my program tells only 512 KB for both.

argh.  what was i thinking?

>Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to  \\  Only my personal opinions... 

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drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) (01/18/91)

In article <17742@cbmvax.commodore.com> drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) writes:
>In article <759@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes:
>>In article <758@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes:
>>>In article <11152@darkstar.ucsc.edu> terry@helios.ucsc.edu (Terry Ricketts) writes:
>>>>
>>>>    I have heard references made about the amount of memory space that the
>>>>bridgeboard uses from the Amiga's pool. I have an A2286 bridgeboard & was
>>>>wondering what the limits on memory expansion are due to the presence of
>>>>that board. Thanks.
>>>
>>>When I remember correctly, it takes 256 KB from the address space.
>>
>>I looked up the output of FindConfigDev() and it told me 512 KB.
>>
>>
>>In another posting Scott Drysdale wrote:
>>
>>> the bilgeboard takes up 2 meg of autoconfig space (2088 and 2286).
>>
>>Sorry, my program tells only 512 KB for both.
>
>argh.  what was i thinking?

aha!  i was thinking of the addresses that the bridgeboard can reside at.  the
bridgeboard can only live on 2 meg address boundaries.

>
>>Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to  \\  Only my personal opinions... 
>
> --Scotty
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peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (01/18/91)

In article <9!4^$+&@rpi.edu> peck@ral.rpi.edu (Joseph Peck) writes:
>
>Boy, I may not be batting 1000 so far, but one of my friends with
>the 2088 claims that his manual states that the 2088 takes up a
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>2 meg chunk of autoconfig space. (boy, what an awkward sentence! :)

Could you please give us precise information where this is?
I just paged through my manual and couldn't find this info.
You know, I have to deal with those manuals (only German version),
and always like to fix any known bug.

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peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (01/18/91)

In article <17745@cbmvax.commodore.com> drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) writes:
>>>
>>>Sorry, my program tells only 512 KB for both.
>>
>>argh.  what was i thinking?
>
>aha!  i was thinking of the addresses that the bridgeboard can reside at.  the
>bridgeboard can only live on 2 meg address boundaries.

Hmm, is this at all allowed in the autoconfig mechanism? I always
thought that autoconfig memory space is managed in 64 KB chunks.
Is then a board allowed to say "No, I don't like the address that
the system gave me, I WANT a 2 meg boundary!" ???

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drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) (01/19/91)

In article <765@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes:
>In article <17745@cbmvax.commodore.com> drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) writes:
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, my program tells only 512 KB for both.
>>>
>>>argh.  what was i thinking?
>>
>>aha!  i was thinking of the addresses that the bridgeboard can reside at.  the
>>bridgeboard can only live on 2 meg address boundaries.
>
>Hmm, is this at all allowed in the autoconfig mechanism? I always
>thought that autoconfig memory space is managed in 64 KB chunks.
>Is then a board allowed to say "No, I don't like the address that
>the system gave me, I WANT a 2 meg boundary!" ???

yes - the autoconfig protocol works in 64k chunks, so any board could locate
itself on a 64K boundary no matter what it's size (i think).  but the
bridgeboard was designed for some reason only to go to 2 meg boundaries.  i
don't know why.

>Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to  \\  Only my personal opinions... 

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daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (01/23/91)

In article <765@cbmger.UUCP> peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) writes:
>In article <17745@cbmvax.commodore.com> drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) writes:

>>>>Sorry, my program tells only 512 KB for both.

>>aha!  i was thinking of the addresses that the bridgeboard can reside at.  the
>>bridgeboard can only live on 2 meg address boundaries.

>Hmm, is this at all allowed in the autoconfig mechanism? 

No.

>I always thought that autoconfig memory space is managed in 64 KB chunks.
>Is then a board allowed to say "No, I don't like the address that
>the system gave me, I WANT a 2 meg boundary!" ???

In general, boards are required to live at their natural boundaries.  This
is the case for all Zorro III boards, as well as anything other than 4 or 8
meg Zorro II boards.  A 4 Meg Zorro II board must be able to live at 2 or 4
meg boundaries, and an 8 Meg Zorro II board must be able to live at 8 meg
boundaries or at $00200000.

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