ben@epmooch.UUCP (Rev. Ben A. Mesander) (01/24/91)
>In article <8147@suns102.cel.co.uk> jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes: > > Does anyone know where I can find an HP deskjet(+) printer driver > that will support graphics dumps bigger than 8x10 inches? I want > to use professional page for A4 pages, (11 3/4 x 8 1/4) so losing > the bottom inch and a bit is a real pain! I think if you read your LJ/DJ manual, you'll find it's the printer itself that has this limit in it. -- | ben@epmooch.UUCP (Ben Mesander) | "Cash is more important than | | ben%servalan.UUCP@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu | your mother." - Al Shugart, | | !chinet!uokmax!servalan!epmooch!ben | CEO, Seagate Technologies |
jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) (01/25/91)
Now our news posting software is supposed to be fixed..
Does anyone know where I can find an HP deskjet(+) printer driver
that will support graphics dumps bigger than 8x10 inches? I want
to use professional page for A4 pages, (11 3/4 x 8 1/4) so losing
the bottom inch and a bit is a real pain!
The 1.3 drivers for deskjet and laserjet both have an 8x10 limit.
Given that the DJ and LJ are obvious choices for high quality, non
postscript DTP applications the size limit seems strange.. or is it
just that US paper is that size?
As an alternative, does anyone know how to newzap the existing
driver to increase the limit?
Any help gratefully recieved!
Jerry jc@cel.co.uk or maybe jc@crosfield.co.uk
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+-----------------------------------+-----------------------------+ \___/jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) (01/28/91)
In article <1991Jan25.054856.19689@DMI.USherb.CA> ig29@terre.DMI.USherb.CA (infographie) writes: >In article <8147@suns102.cel.co.uk> jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes: ME> Does anyone know where I can find an HP deskjet(+) printer driver ME> that will support graphics dumps bigger than 8x10 inches? I want > It is actually a limit of the printer, not the driver. The HP >DeskJets cannot print anything wider than 8 inches, and can't use the Ok, thats not a problem.. >3 bottom lines (half an inch). Also the printer has a top margin of 3 >lines by default, but this can be changed (it CAN print to the top 3 lines). But the 10 inch limit still leaves 1 1/4 inches at the bottom of an A4 page that could be printed on, even after allowing for the 1/2 inch gap, so my original request still stands; Is there any way of increasing the height? > I still wish I had a 68030, though, because generating 1 meg of >bitmap (at 300 DPI) is a big strain on my poor 68000... 10 minutes to >print a page... > > Robert Gagnon Yes, pro page is slow, isn't it? The AmigaTex deskjet driver (specifically for TeX outputs only) does a full page in about a fifth of the time.. and copes with A4 properly, so it can be done! I wonder how much of the speed difference is down to pro page and how much to going through the graphic dump driver? -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | | Jerry Cullingford jc@cel.co.uk or jc@crosfield.co.uk | ,-|-- | #include <std.disclaimer> Amiga! 2,000,000+ and counting.... | \_|__ +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ \___/
jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) (01/28/91)
In article <ben.4626@epmooch.UUCP> ben@epmooch.UUCP (Rev. Ben A. Mesander) writes: >>In article <8147@suns102.cel.co.uk> jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes: >> >> Does anyone know where I can find an HP deskjet(+) printer driver >> that will support graphics dumps bigger than 8x10 inches? I want >> to use professional page for A4 pages, (11 3/4 x 8 1/4) so losing >> the bottom inch and a bit is a real pain! > > I think if you read your LJ/DJ manual, you'll find it's the printer >itself that has this limit in it. > Ok.. The width is a hard limit, but the only limit on height is that you're not supposed to use the bottom 1/2 inch. That means I'm still losing 1 1/4 inch of usable space on an A4 sheet! It can be done.. The dedicated AmigaTeX driver does it fine! -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | | Jerry Cullingford jc@cel.co.uk or jc@crosfield.co.uk | ,-|-- | #include <std.disclaimer> Amiga! 2,000,000+ and counting.... | \_|__ +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ \___/
keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart) (01/28/91)
In article <ben.4626@epmooch.UUCP> ben@epmooch.UUCP (Rev. Ben A. Mesander) writes: > >In article <8147@suns102.cel.co.uk> jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes: > > > > Does anyone know where I can find an HP deskjet(+) printer driver > > that will support graphics dumps bigger than 8x10 inches? I want > > to use professional page for A4 pages, (11 3/4 x 8 1/4) so losing > > the bottom inch and a bit is a real pain! > > I think if you read your LJ/DJ manual, you'll find it's the printer > itself that has this limit in it. > > -- > | ben@epmooch.UUCP (Ben Mesander) | "Cash is more important than | > | ben%servalan.UUCP@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu | your mother." - Al Shugart, | > | !chinet!uokmax!servalan!epmooch!ben | CEO, Seagate Technologies | I think you will find that it is the bottom 1/2 in that is a "dead area" no matter what the size of the paper. With my Deskjet 500 and using Pagestream 1.8 I can print graphics within 11mm of the end of an A4 sheet. With Professional Page 1.3 no matter how I set the margins or paper size i.e A4 or US LEGAL the graphics always finish 38mm from the bottom of the paper. I use DJHELPER to manipulate my DeskJet 500 and this programme allows me to pretend that I can get 70 lines of TEXT at 6 lines/inch on an A4. If you own a Deskjet get DJHELPER. So the problem seems to be in PPage. Even using the driver that comes with DJHELPER I still get the large gap on the sheet of A4. Pagestream uses its own driver.
ig29@terre.DMI.USherb.CA (infographie) (01/29/91)
In article <8177@suns201.cel.co.uk> jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes: >In article <1991Jan25.054856.19689@DMI.USherb.CA> ig29@terre.DMI.USherb.CA (infographie) writes: >>In article <8147@suns102.cel.co.uk> jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes: > >ME> Does anyone know where I can find an HP deskjet(+) printer driver >ME> that will support graphics dumps bigger than 8x10 inches? I want > >> It is actually a limit of the printer, not the driver. The HP >>DeskJets cannot print anything wider than 8 inches, and can't use the > > Ok, thats not a problem.. > >>3 bottom lines (half an inch). Also the printer has a top margin of 3 >>lines by default, but this can be changed (it CAN print to the top 3 lines). > > But the 10 inch limit still leaves 1 1/4 inches at the bottom of an > A4 page that could be printed on, even after allowing for the 1/2 > inch gap, so my original request still stands; Is there any way of > increasing the height? > Would changing the number of lines in preferences and changing the page size to custom work? I can't try here, I only have standard sheets. >> I still wish I had a 68030, though, because generating 1 meg of >>bitmap (at 300 DPI) is a big strain on my poor 68000... 10 minutes to >>print a page... >> >> Robert Gagnon > > Yes, pro page is slow, isn't it? The AmigaTex deskjet driver >(specifically for TeX outputs only) does a full page in about a fifth of the >time.. and copes with A4 properly, so it can be done! I wonder how much of the >speed difference is down to pro page and how much to going through the graphic >dump driver? Xoper tells me that it is the driver that takes the most CPU time. >+-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | >| Jerry Cullingford jc@cel.co.uk or jc@crosfield.co.uk | ,-|-- >| #include <std.disclaimer> Amiga! 2,000,000+ and counting.... | \_|__ >+-----------------------------------------------------------------+ \___/ Robert // \X/ Gagnon
svante@kberg.se (Svante Gellerstam) (01/29/91)
In article <8177@suns201.cel.co.uk> jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes: >In article <1991Jan25.054856.19689@DMI.USherb.CA> ig29@terre.DMI.USherb.CA (infographie) writes: >>In article <8147@suns102.cel.co.uk> jc@cel.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes: > >ME> Does anyone know where I can find an HP deskjet(+) printer driver >ME> that will support graphics dumps bigger than 8x10 inches? I want > >> It is actually a limit of the printer, not the driver. The HP >>DeskJets cannot print anything wider than 8 inches, and can't use the The DeskJet (Plus) can handle 8" and the length you specify, I've dumped across pages with no problem. The main problem is the driver which does not allow more than 10" high pages. I tailored a printer driver for use with PPage / PDraw and the PageSetter II programs. If I get many requests, I may upload it to alt.*.amiga or another group if that's more convenient. The driver works only with PPage / PDraw / PSII. The benefits are: * Twice as fast as the original if the internal halftoner is used. * The internal halftoner tones across bands unlike the original driver - smoother grey areas. * Uses the paper length specified in Preferences. * Accounts for printer specific white margins - positioning on the page within ProPage is millimeter accurate. * Prints graphics 1/4" from top of page. * Uses the compressed graphics modes of the DeskJet Plus. A version for the HP LaserJet also exists. /svante -- Svante Gellerstam svante@kberg.se, d87sg@efd.lth.se