[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] Amiga 1000 power supply and hard drive

gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) (03/23/91)

Hi.  I have a 3.5" hard drive (Miniscribe) that I want to mount internally
in my Amiga 1000.  I have been told that the 1000 power supply is hefty.
The question is: Is the Amiga 1000 power supply strong enough to power
a 3.5" hard drive, an external floppy, an internal floppy, a RAM expansion
and possibly the multi port hack?

More importantly, what are the lines on the main cable going to the
motherboard?  Please give voltage, amperage, color (or some other method
by which I can tell what is what :) and orientation.

			Thanks, Ralph

Ralph Seguin			gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu
536 South Forest Apt. #915	gilgalad@zip.eecs.umich.edu
Ann Arbor, MI 48104		(313) 662-4805

<LEEK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> (03/25/91)

In article <1991Mar23.022006.22851@engin.umich.edu>,
gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) says:
>
>Hi.  I have a 3.5" hard drive (Miniscribe) that I want to mount internally
>in my Amiga 1000.  I have been told that the 1000 power supply is hefty.

You can get about 5-6A on the +5V and about 1A (1.5A peak) on the +12V supply.
It is generated by a 7812 regulator chip (which sets the limit)

>The question is: Is the Amiga 1000 power supply strong enough to power
>a 3.5" hard drive, an external floppy, an internal floppy, a RAM expansion
>and possibly the multi port hack?

Yes.  The +12V supply is the limiting factor here.  If you make sure that your
hard drive and the Amiga motherboard are the only 2 that uses the 12V supply.
Typical floppy drives uses 12V @150mA.  If you were to use Sony drives or other
makes that doesn't require the 12V supply, you save yourself 300mA on the power
budget.

I am running a Miniscribe 8450 (3.5" 40Meg RLL) as internal hard drive, OMTI
5527 hard drive controller (Palomax), Lucas/Frances 020 + 4meg memory expansion
for 2 years on the 1000 power supply with no major problems.  There is a little
bit of undervoltage (can be seen as minor ripples/distortions on screen) during
the initial hard drive startup (can take 1.5A- 2A on the 12V supply) which is
about 2-3 sec long and about 1-2 seconds from  power is turned on (probably
doing some onboard diagonistics and making sure power is stable.  Thanks the
designer for that.  Otherwise it is very hard for the power supply. :) Once the
motor started up, the current drops to about 1A or so which is very closed to
the operating limit.  That's why you should make sure that it is the only thing
on thje 12V bus.

>
>More importantly, what are the lines on the main cable going to the
>motherboard?  Please give voltage, amperage, color (or some other method
>by which I can tell what is what :) and orientation.

Since you said that you want to mount it internally, you can get power for it
using the power connector for the internal floppy drive.  You have to change
the connector, but the +5V, GND and +12V required for the hard drive is all
there.  Colour ?  Can't remember.  Use a multimeter if in doubt.

The actual power requirement depends on your hard drive.  Consult the data
sheets or the sticker on the drive if in doubt.  I know my new Quantum 105S
uses less power than my 8450. :)  Now if only I can design a fast SCSI
interface for it that fits inside the 1000...
>
>                        Thanks, Ralph
>
>Ralph Seguin                    gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu
>536 South Forest Apt. #915      gilgalad@zip.eecs.umich.edu
>Ann Arbor, MI 48104             (313) 662-4805

K. C. Lee
Elec. Eng. Grad. Student Power Option
(Translated to: I am still in school, no even in my speciality  and I have no
money. Do it at you own risk. )  Good luck !!