Harvey_Taylor@mindlink.UUCP (Harvey Taylor) (03/23/91)
There are several High Capacity Floppies that have been announced & some of which you can buy. In no particular order: 1) Brier 2) Insite 3) Panasonic 4) Konica 5) NEC --------- 1) Brier --------- [Available to OEMs as far as I know.] Brier Technology 2363 Bering Drive San Jose, CA 95131 (408)435-8463 CAPACITY unformatted 25.0 meg formatted 21.4 meg CONFIGURATION Number of disks 1 Data Surfaces 2 Data heads 2 Servo System T^3 Tracks per surface 516 Track density (TPI) 777 Track capacity (bytes typical) 20480 Blocks per drive (512 byte) 42080 Blocks per surface (512 byte) 21040 Blocks per track (typical 512 byte) 40 MEDIA (flexible diskette) 3.5" PERFORMANCE Actuator Linear voice coil motor Seek time (includes setting) Track to track (ms) 15 Average (ms) 35 Maximum (ms) 70 Average latency (ms) 41.6 Rotation speed (RPM) 720 Data transfer rate To/From the media (megabits/sec) 2.2 To/from the buffer (megabytes/sec) 1.25 Start time 1 sec Stop time 1 sec READ/WRITE Interface SCSI Recording method BRLL Recording density (BPI) 26000 COMPATIBILITY the BR3225 (not BR3020) reads IBM formatted floppy disks Dimensions L: 5.75", W: 4.0", H: 1.625" Weight: 1.6 pounds Power requirements (*) DC Input +12 volts DC +5 volts DC Power dissipation <9 watts (operational-seeking) * Power management algorithms reduce power to an average of 2.0 watts for typical applications. --------- 2) Insite --------- [Available to OEMs as far as I know.] Insite Peripherals 4433 Fortran Drive San Jose, CA 95134-2302 (408)946-8080 CAPACITY unformatted 25 megs formatted 20.8 megs Recording density 23980 BPI (RLL) Transfer from DISK 1.6 Mbit/Sec Buffer transfer rate 2 Mbyte/Sec Average Seek time 65 msec Settle time 15 msec Motor start time 750 msec # of read/write heads 2 Track density 1250 TPI Cylinders 755 Tracks 1510 Rotational speed 720 rpm Power dissipation 6 watt average Data reliability <1 error unrecoverable error per 10**11 bits Seek errors <1 error per 10**6 seeks Drive dimensions H: 1.625" W: 4.0" D 5.91" --------- 3) Panasonic --------- [Not yet released as far as I know.] Panasonic Industrial Co. Memory Systems Division 1600 McCandless Drive Milpitas, CA 95035 (408) 262-2200 The Memory Systems Division of Panasonic Industrial Co. recently announced a disk drive that will put 11 megabytes of data on a newly developed 3.5 inch metal floppy disk. The large capacity floppy disk drive, called the 3511, is equipped with an embedded SCSI controller and encoder with a micro-stepping motor, and has a self-formatting function to initialize the media, according to the company. The 3511 large-capacity floppy disk drive is also read-only compatible with conventional 1-megabyte and 2-megabyte 3.5 inch disks, according to Panasonic Industrial. The magnetic media, which has an unformatted capacity of 16 megabytes, has a formatted capacity of 11 megabytes and a linear recording density of 35,000 bits per inch with 640 tracks on each side, according to the company. The metal disk and two recording heads increase the linear recording density, and a micor-stepping motor with an encoder allows high-speed access and high-precision tracking of plus or minus 2 micrometers. The 3511's average access time is less than 60 milliseconds and track-to-tack time is less than 10 milliseconds, according to Panasonic Industrial. The drive's data transfer rate is 2 megabits per second, according to the company. Evaluation units of the 3511 floppy disk drive will be available in the second quarter, with production quantities scheduled for July. The 3511 drive will list for $250. --------- 4) Konica --------- [Still available?] The drive, Konica KT-510, is a 10 meg floppy which uses a SCSI interface. The diskettes are standard type 5 1/4" floppies with a 650 oersted rated media and are specially formatted by Konica with 480 tracks per inch. The diskettes contain special optical coding which is used in conjunction with the optical tracking mechanism on the drive itself. The optic system maintains info on direction, velocity and location. Thus, the drive can accurately seek to tracks and sectors despite the high data density. Diskettes are typically high level formatted at 350 tracks of 30 sectors each. The head mechanism is driven by a voice coil actuator and has an average seek of 75 ms and an average track-to-track of 20 ms. Thus, it is quite similar to an ST-225's specs. The motor runs at 600 RPM. With special drivers the drive can be downward compatible to read 48 or 96 tpi diskettes. Mounting is similar to any 5 1/4" floppy drive. --------- 5) NEC --------- [Not yet released as far as I know.] NEC 1414 Massachusetts Ave. Boxborough, MA 01719 (508)264-8939 Embedded servo data 12 Mbyte Barium-Ferrite 3.5" disks 431 tpi 360 rpm References: ---------- Byte, Oct 1990, Page 301, Megafloppies by Stephen Satchell Byte, Sept 1990, Page 188, Stor/Mor Review A Guide to Optical Storage Technology by J.A. McCormick Dow-Jones-Irwin 1990, ISBN 1-55623-320-5 --- Pointers to other high capacity floppies would be appreciated. -het "Kill them all! God will know his own." -the Abbot of Citeaux Harvey Taylor Meta Media Productions uunet!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!Harvey_Taylor a186@mindlink.UUCP
PYC118@uriacc.uri.edu (Rasiel) (03/23/91)
Well the subject says it all. Anyone got any more info on this long-heard-of drive that can use regular 3.5" floppies or special 20 meg disks? If this product ever hits the shelf I cannot see why in the world anyone would ever need a hard drive. Unless of course this special media is too expensive. I first heard of this drive last year and back then it was rumored to be out 'soon' (in computerese terms). This baby's gotta be the storage answer to computers barring all but the prohibitively expensive R/W optical CD's, no? Rasiel (Am I getting to be a nuisance? :))
ckp@grebyn.com (Checkpoint Technologies) (03/23/91)
In article <48596@nigel.ee.udel.edu> Rasiel <PYC118@uriacc.uri.edu> writes: >Well the subject says it all. Anyone got any more info on this long-heard-of >drive that can use regular 3.5" floppies or special 20 meg disks? If this >product ever hits the shelf I cannot see why in the world anyone would ever >need a hard drive. Obviously you've never been in the presence of a 660 Meg 15ms 1.5MB/s hard drive. Sometimes you've just gotta have one. (I have on info on the Floptical, sorry.) -- First comes the logo: C H E C K P O I N T T E C H N O L O G I E S / / ckp@grebyn.com \\ / / Then, the disclaimer: All expressed opinions are, indeed, opinions. \ / o Now for the witty part: I'm pink, therefore, I'm spam! \/
DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu (03/24/91)
In article <48596@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, PYC118@uriacc.uri.edu (Rasiel) says: >drive that can use regular 3.5" floppies or special 20 meg disks? If this >product ever hits the shelf I cannot see why in the world anyone would ever >need a hard drive. Unless of course this special media is too expensive. Well, for one thing the floptical is much slower than a typical hard drive. Another problem is that the media wears out in a month if you use it like a hard drive. (According to a user of a 10MB 51/4 drive). Also, it's fairly expensive (>$300 in 1000s). For that price you could get an 80MB hard drive, at least. The media is supposed to be very cheap, though (eventually). On the other hand, like everyone else, I want one. :-) -- Dan Babcock
stevek@amiglynx.UUCP (Steve Krulewitz) (03/26/91)
Are there any prices availible on any of thoes drives? Also, if I wanted to buy one - I have a Supra Hard Card with a Quantum controller - could I use it with the Amiga? Do the proper handlers/mountlists exist? -=+ Steve Krulewitz +=- -=+ Fair Lawn, NJ +=- -=+ UUNET!tronbox!amiglynx!stevek.UUCP +=-
jhaubric@mcs213a.cs.umr.edu (John Haubrich) (03/27/91)
Howdy! I called Insite today (26 Mar 91) and talked to one of their sales people. She said evaluation units of their floptical would start shipping on May 15 with OEM-only sales starting in August. Her "best guess" at a retail price was $600US for the drive and $20-$25 per floptical diskette. She added that the company hopes to bring the price down to around $300 within a year or so. When I asked about Commodore-Amiga support, she said "Commodore has announced that they're going to be one of our first OEM customers." I guess that means I have to wait until August to replace my Seacrate but that's OK since I have no cash anyway :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Haubrich The Great Standard disclaimers apply -----------------------------------------------------------------------------