[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] MSDOS Emulation for the Amiga 2000

cdavis@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Charles Davis) (04/12/91)

Hi!  (Sorry if I posted this in the wrong newsgroup the first time :^))

I am considering purchacing an MSDOS (yuk! :^( ) emulator for my Amiga.
Does anyone out there have experience with the following?

	ATonce
	XT Bridgeboard (w/286 or 386 add on, perhaps?)
	AT Bridgeboard
	(Any others out there?)

Questions:

	1.  What are the pros and cons of each?
	2.  Compatability problems?
	3.  Upgrading possabilities (specifically, 386, 486, VGA)?
	4.  Speed, ease of use, mouse, etc.

I have an Amiga 2000 w/5 MB and a 42MB Quantum hard drive.  I have a
couple of versions of the old "Transformer" AT emulator program, but they
refuse to work with my machine :^((, although the very same disk will run
on my friends' A500s!

I need to have MSDOS capability at home, unfortunately, and I don't have
room (or the cash, for that matter!) for buying a cheap clone.  I'm just
a poor grad student!

Does anyone have any input on this?  I really don't want to have a PC clone
sitting next to my nice Amiga, bringing down property values in the 
neiborhood, etc :^).

				Charles Michael Davis
				cdavis@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
				(no cute signature yet! :^(

drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) (04/16/91)

In article <3194@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU> cdavis@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Charles Davis) writes:
>
>Hi!  (Sorry if I posted this in the wrong newsgroup the first time :^))
>
>I am considering purchacing an MSDOS (yuk! :^( ) emulator for my Amiga.
>Does anyone out there have experience with the following?
>
>	ATonce
>	XT Bridgeboard (w/286 or 386 add on, perhaps?)
>	AT Bridgeboard
>	(Any others out there?)
>
>Questions:
>
>	1.  What are the pros and cons of each?
>	2.  Compatability problems?
>	3.  Upgrading possabilities (specifically, 386, 486, VGA)?
>	4.  Speed, ease of use, mouse, etc.
>
>I have an Amiga 2000 w/5 MB and a 42MB Quantum hard drive.  I have a
>couple of versions of the old "Transformer" AT emulator program, but they
>refuse to work with my machine :^((, although the very same disk will run
>on my friends' A500s!
>
>I need to have MSDOS capability at home, unfortunately, and I don't have
>room (or the cash, for that matter!) for buying a cheap clone.  I'm just
>a poor grad student!
>
>Does anyone have any input on this?  I really don't want to have a PC clone
>sitting next to my nice Amiga, bringing down property values in the 
>neiborhood, etc :^).

XT and AT bridgeboards provide:
	- MDA (text) display emulation
	- CGA (text/graphics) display emulation
	- keyboard emulation
	- parallel port emulation (intended for use with a printer, not
	  a protection dongle)
	- mouse drivers for DOS, windows 2.0, and (soon) windows 3.0
	- bridgeboard can use part of amiga's hard drive
	- amiga can use part of bridgeboard's hard drive
	- plugs into a bridge slot in the 2000 or 3000 or suitable expansion
	  bus for 500/1000
	- 8 and 16 bit ibm compatible cards (memory, hard drive controllers,
	  graphics cards, etc) can be plugged into 2000 or 3000 XT/AT slots
	- the bridgeboard doesn't use any amiga resources (memory, cpu time)
	  except when actually performing i/o through any of the emulation
	  interfaces (keyboard, display, disk, mouse)

XT bridgeboard provides:
	- low density floppy drive controller (360K/720K drives)
	- a connector for attaching an internally mounted 3.5" or 5.25" drive
	- a connector for attaching an externally mounted A1010 (3.5") or
	  A1020 (5.25") external floppy drive
	- 4.77Mhz 8088
	- 512K RAM

AT bridgeboard provides:
	- high/low density floppy drive controller (360K/720K/1.2M/1.4M drives)
	- a connector for attaching two internally mounted floppy drives
	- 8Mhz 80286
	- 1M RAM

problems with both bridgeboards:
	- printer port emulation isn't exactly right, but should work with
	  most software
	- the COM2 port addresses and interrupt line are reserved for use
	  by the bridgeboard

problems with the AT bridgeboard:
	- running windows 3.0 in standard mode causes problems with
	  keyboard emulation
	- some hardcards/hard drive controllers have trouble with the
	  current BIOS.  we're fixing this problem.

as to using 286/386 accelerators, some work and some don't.  if you have a
particular one in mind, i could check to see if it's known to work.

the ATONCE is sort of a mixed bag.  it's very cheap, and in addition to the
same graphics modes the bridgeboards have and also provides 720x348 and
640x400 monochrome graphics modes.  in my opinion, it's drawbacks are:
	- it is presently available only in a 68000-socket plugin version
	  (no using real ibm pc compatible hardware, no using accelerator
	  cards while the ATONCE is in use)
	- it allocates it's memory from the amiga's memory pool
	- it interleaves memory cycles with the 68000 (if the amiga
	  and the ATONCE are both running, each will run at half speed)
	- the way it shares the amiga's floppy drive is a bit clumsy

>				Charles Michael Davis

  --Scotty

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