jason@cbmami.UUCP (Jason Goldberg) (03/16/91)
Well, I have twice posted a letter stating that I am still having troubles with multiple Quantum drives on my all CBM equipted A2500, with reselection turned off on all drives, and proper termination. I have the "A" WD chip and rev 5.92 ROMS. I only asked if any of the CBM engineers thought I should upgrade to the now available 6.1 ROMS, and if anyone is actively working on this problem. If no one is I only want to know who I should write to, as none of the letters that myself and others have written have ever been replied to. No one responded to my letter. Dave Hayne (very kindly) even responded to another post I made at the same time, but did not see or choose not to respond to the A2091 post twice. I view this as bad news for me.... At one point CBM Engineers routinly discused the problem and often suggested that reselection be turned off (which it definately is on my two quantum drives). Now no CBM Engineer seems willing to utter the word A2091, does this mean "something is in the works don't bug us" or does it mean "trade in for a GVP"? The vibes I am getting suggest the later. The real trouble here (besied my own...) is that the dealer I work for, like many dealers is stuck between a rock and a hard place. We want to make a profit selling HarDrives but we are afaid to sell to A2091 owners. We need to sell $X in CBM product per year, but we have to sell A2000 w/ GVP HD controllers and either GVP or CBM acceleraters instead of A2000HD's or A2500's. Customers who do own A2091's are taking there buisness elsewhere since they see us as being unresponsive to their problems. All I really want is to know where I stand and what I should do, I am not looking for any promises or free fixes! -Jason- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Goldberg UUCP: ucsd!serene!cbmami!jason Del Mar, CA
greg@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory R. TRAVIS) (03/21/91)
jason@cbmami.UUCP (Jason Goldberg) writes: >Well, I have twice posted a letter stating that I am still having troubles >with multiple Quantum drives on my all CBM equipted A2500, with reselection >turned off on all drives, and proper termination. I have the "A" WD chip and >rev 5.92 ROMS. I only asked if any of the CBM engineers thought I should >upgrade to the now available 6.1 ROMS, and if anyone is actively working on >this problem. If no one is I only want to know who I should write to, as none >of the letters that myself and others have written have ever been replied to. Jason (and others), The A2091 with the 5.92 ROMS and WD "A" SCSI chip will not handle multiple SCSI drives reliably. The symptoms are, as you stated, intermittent lockups which require a reboot. Turning off reselection will NOT fix the problem and DOES cause a significant performance hit. Of course you won't notice the performance hit if you DO turn off reselection because you still won't be able to use more than one drive. *sigh* CBM has supposedly been working on this problem. ROM version 6.6 is reputed to fix all the A2091 problems. It is not available at this time and no one seems to know when it will become available to regular users. There also seems to be a question as to who will have to pay for the ROMs - CBM or the end user. My A2091 just went out of warranty this month and I've had the problem for (now) over a year. -- Gregory R. Travis Indiana University, Bloomington IN 47405 greg@cica.indiana.edu Center for Innovative Computer Applications This signature intentionally left blank.
jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) (04/02/91)
In article <18d500f6.ARN0f22@cbmami.UUCP> jason@cbmami.UUCP writes: >At one point CBM Engineers routinly discused the problem and often >suggested that reselection be turned off (which it definately is on my two >quantum drives). Now no CBM Engineer seems willing to utter the word >A2091, does this mean "something is in the works don't bug us" or does it >mean "trade in for a GVP"? The vibes I am getting suggest the later. I've been busy, and got to this group for the first time in a month or more (as you can see by the string of postings this follows... :-) The former is more accurate (you can start holding your breath). >All I really want is to know where I stand and what I should do, I am not >looking for any promises or free fixes! Understood. I'm trying to be of help, and have been a champion of all of your causes when possible. You should see results RRSN. Sorry, I really can't say more yet. (and as usual, read my disclaimer) -- Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering. {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com BIX: rjesup Disclaimer: Nothing I say is in anything other than my personal opinion. Thus spake the Master Ninjei: "To program a million-line operating system is easy, to change a man's temperament is more difficult." (From "The Zen of Programming") ;-)
jason@cbmami.UUCP (Jason Goldberg) (04/02/91)
In article <20252@cbmvax.commodore.com>, Randell Jesup writes: > Understood. I'm trying to be of help, and have been a champion of > all of your causes when possible. You should see results RRSN. Sorry, I > really can't say more yet. (and as usual, read my disclaimer) > > -- > Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering. > {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com BIX: rjesup > Disclaimer: Nothing I say is in anything other than my personal opinion. > Thus spake the Master Ninjei: "To program a million-line operating system > is easy, to change a man's temperament is more difficult." > (From "The Zen of Programming") ;-) Bless, you Randell! That is all I had hoped to hear (I would have even been happy to hear "don't hold your breath" :-). Just wanted to know that something was or wasn't being done. I think I speak for many people when I say "Thank you for all the free help and support you guys have allways given us!" Have a good one, -Jason- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Goldberg UUCP: ucsd!serene!cbmami!jason Del Mar, CA
cole@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (04/10/91)
In article <20252@cbmvax.commodore.com>, jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) writes: > In article <18d500f6.ARN0f22@cbmami.UUCP> jason@cbmami.UUCP writes: >>At one point CBM Engineers routinly discused the problem and often >>suggested that reselection be turned off (which it definately is on my two >>quantum drives). Now no CBM Engineer seems willing to utter the word >>A2091, does this mean "something is in the works don't bug us" or does it >>mean "trade in for a GVP"? The vibes I am getting suggest the later. > > I've been busy, and got to this group for the first time in a month > or more (as you can see by the string of postings this follows... :-) > The former is more accurate (you can start holding your breath). > >>All I really want is to know where I stand and what I should do, I am not >>looking for any promises or free fixes! > > Understood. I'm trying to be of help, and have been a champion of > all of your causes when possible. You should see results RRSN. Sorry, I > really can't say more yet. (and as usual, read my disclaimer) > > -- > Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering. > {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com BIX: rjesup > Disclaimer: Nothing I say is in anything other than my personal opinion. > Thus spake the Master Ninjei: "To program a million-line operating system > is easy, to change a man's temperament is more difficult." > (From "The Zen of Programming") ;-) Dear sir, Is there any way in hell you could be more vague about your answer to the previous question? sincerely, another A2091 owner Thomas Cole
jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) (04/27/91)
In article <1991Apr10.123648.29592@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> cole@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >In article <20252@cbmvax.commodore.com>, jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) writes: >> Understood. I'm trying to be of help, and have been a champion of >> all of your causes when possible. You should see results RRSN. Sorry, I >> really can't say more yet. (and as usual, read my disclaimer) >Dear sir, > Is there any way in hell you could be more vague about your answer to >the previous question? No, I'm sorry, I've tried but I can't be any vaguer. You know, being vague is an artform, and I'm afraid the experts all get jobs as spokesmen. Poor engineers like me try our best, but I'm afraid we can't always meet their quality levels for vagueness. ;-) More seriously, if you saw the length of the warning notice I see each time I post, ending with "imagine you have a ... senior executive on one side and the legal department on the other...", you'd understand. People have lost jobs at this company and many others for saying things they shouldn't on the nets. Personally, I'd like to keep mine. As you can see from a posting I made a few hours ago, my ability to remain vague suffered a momentary lapse... ;-) If you believe this is an official posting in any way, I have some prime real estate in northern Iraq for sale... -- Randell Jesup, Keeper of AmigaDos, Commodore Engineering. {uunet|rutgers}!cbmvax!jesup, jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com BIX: rjesup Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion. Thus spake the Master Ninjei: "To program a million-line operating system is easy, to change a man's temperament is more difficult." (From "The Zen of Programming") ;-)
valentin@public.BTR.COM (Valentin Pepelea) (04/28/91)
In article <20988@cbmvax.commodore.com> jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) writes: > > No, I'm sorry, I've tried but I can't be any vaguer. You know, being >vague is an artform, and I'm afraid the experts all get jobs as spokesmen. >Poor engineers like me try our best, but I'm afraid we can't always meet >their quality levels for vagueness. > > ;-) No, no, no. you're missing the point, Randell. You achieve the supreme level of spokesman when you master the ability of saying something that is understood in one way by the public, when in fact it means another. For example, if you want to say "This (product) is a piece of shit, and it stinks!" as a cultured engineer you would probably say "This is a piece of fertilizer, and no one can abide by its stench." But a high ranking monk accepted into the order of spokesmen would say "This is that which makes things grow and flurish, and no one can abide by it." You will know that you have mastered this technique when your boss comes into your office and chastizes you for giving out faulty information, when in fact you were right on the mark. :-) Valentin -- "An operating system without virtual memory Name: Valentin Pepelea is an operating system without virtue." Phone: (408) 985-1700 Usenet: mips!btr!valentin - Ancient Inca Proverb Internet: valentin@btr.com