[comp.sys.amiga.hardware] Dead 2000 MB: What did I fry?

CDH@MTUS5.BITNET (05/03/91)

Hello...It seems I have a slight problem with my Amiga.
Its dead.

I was wondering if anyone out there in Netland might have an
idea what is not working anymore.

Machine:
   Amiga 2000, Rev 4.3 motherboard
   1M Agnes, Supra 8-up (with 2M), IVS Trumpcard


Problem/Symptoms:
   A diode was burned out on the motherboard (actually burned clean
   through).  It was replacd (1N4001) located near the power supply
   input to the motherboard.  It was either D600, or D900 (I forget).
   A technician at the company that sells the Megachip said the revision
   motherboard I have is missing a capacitor which is needed for the
   Megachip board to work.  I still have yet to put this capacitor in.
   This capacitor is located near the Agnes chip.

   Machine refuses to boot.

   White screen on power up (with *no* boards in machine, no floppy
   in drive).  Goes through gray colors, but when it should come up
   with a work bench prompt, stays white instead.
   Floppy drive clicks like it is waiting for a disk.
   When disk is inserted, floppy stops clicking, however, access light
   does not come on drive and drive does not spin.

   With the Trumpcard in, the machine will attempt to Autoboot off
   the hard drive.  It usually does not succeed.  The background color
   *does* change from white to blue (which is my boot background color).
   A couple powerup attempts let to a screen of garbage (kinda looked
   like page zero), with moving bits on the screen.  Once or twice the
   machine actually booted to the point where I could type a command and
   it would access the disk.  The machine usually died pretty quickly.
   Most of my attempts at booting, however, ended up with the machine
   just stopping before it finished booting.

   We tried using a logic probe, but everything looked "normal" as far
   as we could tell.  ie: yup, there was power to memory, chips, etc
   Ok, I'm a CS major and my friend is a EE (both undergrads).


Suspected Killers:
    Megachip 2000  (The board for about $350 which allows you
                    to put a 2M Agnes in the 2000)
    Supra 8-up     (Either the Megachip, or the Megachip in
                    combination with this board)

How it happened (I think):
     The roommate purchased this board originally for his machine,
     but had to send his motherboard in for replacement since it
     was a revision 6 and would not work with the Megachip.
     While his machine was gone, I became interested in possibly
     having a 2M board in my machine :)

     So: I pulled my machine completely apart (motherboard too)
         so I could get that darn original Agnes out of its socket.
         I had to use the holes on the bottom as well as the chip
         puller to pry that sucker from its wedge.  Its highly
         possible that I damaged the Agnes socket while pulling
         the chip (I am leaning toward that idea now).

         I put the new Agnes board in, and put the machine all back
         together.

      It worked beautifully (2M chip, 2M fast - Supra) for about an
      hour.  I then began to notice a flash occasionally.  At first
      I thought it might be power or the monitor acting up (dorms).

      The longer I left the machine on, the worse the flicker got.
      If I powered my Amiga off, then back on the flicker would go
      away for a while, but always return faster than previously.

      I pulled the Supra and Trumpcard out and the problem went
      away.  I then put the Trumpcard back in and the problem still
      did not return.  I assume there must have been some conflict
      between the Supra and the Megachip.

      I let the machine run for a whole day without the Supra board
      and it did not give incident.  I then put the Supra back in.
      The problem did not come back immediately.

      Then I did the foolish thing.  I turned the monitor off and
      let the machine sit for a day (I usually leave my machine on
      24 hours a day).  When I came back the next day, the screen
      was blank (border color).  I cycled power and the machine came
      back on for a few seconds and then quit.  I tried again;
      same result.

      At this point, I pulled my machine all apart and removed the
      Megachip.  I replaced the original Agnes back into its socket.
      When I reassembled the machine, the screen did not return!

      I tried pulling and reinserting Agnes; to no avail.


What I have already tried:
    Replacing the diode that was burned clean through.

    Swapping every pullable chip on the motherboard
    [68000, Agnes, Paula, Denise, Gary, ROM, the two 6820
     chips, etc].

    Probing around randomly with a logic probe.

    Hooking the machine up to a composite monitor to see if it was
    my RGB section.  Exactly same results.



Anyone with any ideas or suggestions, please help.

Thanks (in advance).
--desperate college student here in need of an Amiga  :(


- Chris Hooper      Computing Technology Services Consultant
  cdh@mtu.edu       Michigan Technological University

Also: cdh@mtus5.mtu.edu CDH@MTUS5.Bitnet and cdhooper@symmetry.cs.mtu.edu