dsg@cci632.UUCP (David Greenberg) (12/27/90)
Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine? Dave
kengo@rpi.edu (Kenneth Goldenberg) (12/27/90)
anlhille@rose.ucs.indiana.edu writes: >dsg@cci632.UUCP (David Greenberg) writes... >| >| Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed >|in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine? > >Yeah! I know I've got Fatter Agnus in my 2500, but I have no clue whatsoever >as to what's in my 500. Could someone (At C=, maybe?!) write or point us to a >program that can determine which chips we've got? I didn't think this was of general interest, but if anyone cares, there is a program called sysinfo by Nic Wilson. I found it on GEnie, and it seems to have appeared in the Sep 1990 Jumpdisk. It gives some numbers about your system (Mhz etc) and gives some comparisons to other "stock" Amigas (500 w/ 512k, 2500/030 3000 etc) It tells you what you have in the way of custom chips. I dl'ed it 'cause it's cute, but assuming you have at least a meg, you could just type avail from the cli to see how much chip mem you have. If anyone wants, I'll mail it, and if it's that major a thing, maybe it'll wind up on the New Xanth (Sorry, but I can't seem to remember that warped alphabet of theirs {thank god for hostaliases}) -Mitch -- kengo@rpi.edu |"...it surrounds us and penetrates us ken_goldenberg@rpitsmts.bitnet|and binds the galaxy together" -G.L -------------------------------------------------------------------- "What a day you had today/It took your smile away" --Heart
anlhille@rose.ucs.indiana.edu (Joseph Hillenburg) (12/27/90)
In article <45403@cci632.UUCP>, dsg@cci632.UUCP (David Greenberg) writes... | | Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed |in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine? Yeah! I know I've got Fatter Agnus in my 2500, but I have no clue whatsoever as to what's in my 500. Could someone (At C=, maybe?!) write or point us to a program that can determine which chips we've got? | | Dave ============================================================================= | -jph IMHO: The "H" means "honest!" | | INET: anlhille@ucs.indiana.edu UUCP: iuvax!prism.decnet!anlhille | | BITNET: anlhille@iurose.bitnet DECNET: PRISM::ANLHILLE | =============================================================================
jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) (12/27/90)
Programs to show what Agnus you have? Easy: ShowCards 1.4 SI 2.0b SysInfo 1.94 Sysconfig (might be from the WB2.0 as Config...) And if you are hardware type, you can look inside your Amiga and tell really easily. The 1meg Agnus is labeled: 8372-A vs. the 2meg Agnus of 8372-B. -- John M. Adams --**-- Professional Student on the seven-year plan! /// Internet: jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu -or- vladimir@maple.circa.ufl.edu /// "We'll always be together, together in electric dreams" Moroder & Oakey \\V// Sysop of The Beachside. FIDOnet 1:3612/557. 904-492-2305 (Florida) \X/
dac@prolix.ccadfa.oz.au (Andrew Clayton) (12/27/90)
In article <45403@cci632.UUCP>, David Greenberg writes: > Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed > in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine? Check out a program 'SI' which is part of Kramden Utilities. Here's an extract from running it on my machine: System Information v2.0b Kramden Utilities (c) 1988,1989 Pregnant Badger Software Computer Name: Amiga Operating System: Kickstart v34.5, Workbench v34.21 Main Processor: Motorola 68030 Math Coprocessor: Motorola 68882 Verical Blank Frequency: 50Hz Power Supply Frequency: 50Hz Custom Chips: Super Agnus, Normal Denise Video Mode: PAL As you can see it tells you about the Agnus and Denise. It also CORRECTLY identifies 68030 and 68882 chips. Many programs don't do that, and tell you that you have 68020. I guess that indicates the age of the software I use. :-) I'm running an A2500/30 (GVP 3001) at 30Mhz. > Dave Dac -- _l _ _ // Andrew Clayton. Canberra, Australia. I Post . (_](_l(_ \X/ ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au!prolix!dac . . I am. -------- I cannot send or recieve mail to or from sites outside of Australia.
mt87692@tut.fi (Mikko Tsokkinen) (12/27/90)
In article <45403@cci632.UUCP> dsg@cci632.UUCP (David Greenberg) writes: > Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed > in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine? > Dave Are you seriously considering NOT opening your A2K? How do you think you can install new boards? :----) But seriously I don't see any reason for not opening a A2K. If you open it you can see what is the motherboard revision, install new boards, is it dirty, are all the stuff inside and are there any loosen bolts running on your motherboard killing all the chips etc. There are number of programs for determining the AGNUS revision or you can write your own which looks the id field from the AGNUS. E.g. all pal/ntsc change programs tell you whether there is the new or old AGNUS installed. Kramden utilities SI (system info) tells it too. I assume 2.0 has a field where you can obtain all the custom chip revisions. MIT -- Bubble Bobble
etxtomp@eos.ericsson.se (Tommy Petersson) (12/27/90)
In article <0TP^~_*@rpi.edu> kengo@rpi.edu (Kenneth Goldenberg) writes: >anlhille@rose.ucs.indiana.edu writes: >>dsg@cci632.UUCP (David Greenberg) writes... >>| >>| Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed >>|in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine? >> >>Yeah! I know I've got Fatter Agnus in my 2500, but I have no clue whatsoever >>as to what's in my 500. Could someone (At C=, maybe?!) write or point us to a >>program that can determine which chips we've got? > >I didn't think this was of general interest, but if anyone cares, there is >a program called sysinfo by Nic Wilson. I found it on GEnie, and it seems >to have appeared in the Sep 1990 Jumpdisk. It gives some numbers about >your system (Mhz etc) and gives some comparisons to other "stock" Amigas >(500 w/ 512k, 2500/030 3000 etc) It tells you what you have in the way of >custom chips. I dl'ed it 'cause it's cute, but assuming you have at least >a meg, you could just type avail from the cli to see how much chip mem you >have. If anyone wants, I'll mail it, and if it's that major a thing, maybe >it'll wind up on the New Xanth (Sorry, but I can't seem to remember that >warped alphabet of theirs {thank god for hostaliases}) > There may be a problem with those 500's that have 1Meg Agnus, but the jumpers on the MB are factory set only to use 512 K chip, since the machine doesn't have more than 512 K. Even if you install memory expansion (like a A501), you will not get more chip memory if you don't modify the MB. Which you should not do... I don't know if another program can detect which Agnus you have, but avail is no sure way. Tommy Petersson etxtomp@eos.ericsson.se
dsg@cci632.UUCP (David Greenberg) (12/27/90)
Thanks a lot for the replys....and ofcourse I don't mind opening up my 2000....I just wanted to know if there was another way! Thanks, Dave
billsey@agora.uucp (Bill Seymour) (12/28/90)
In article <45403@cci632.UUCP> dsg@ccird1.UUCP (David Greenberg) writes:
:
: Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed
:in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine?
:
: Dave
Type 'Avail' at any Shell prompt. If it says you have a maximum of
512K chip mem, you have the old Agnus.
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(503) 281-8153 (503) 246-9311 (503) 656-7393 BBS (503) 640-0842lshaw@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (logan shaw) (12/28/90)
In article <1990Dec27.052836.7582@news.cs.indiana.edu> anlhille@rose.ucs.indiana.edu writes: >In article <45403@cci632.UUCP>, dsg@cci632.UUCP (David Greenberg) writes... >| >| Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed >|in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine? > >Yeah! I know I've got Fatter Agnus in my 2500, but I have no clue whatsoever >as to what's in my 500. Could someone (At C=, maybe?!) write or point us to a >program that can determine which chips we've got? Simples way to determine whether you have a Fatter Agnus: Type 'avail' at the CLI prompt. If your Maximum chip is 1 meg (or more in the case of a 3000), you have the fatter agnus. -or- Get 'pal' and 'ntsc' by Nico Francois and see if anything happens when you try to go from ntsc to pal or from pal to ntsc. >| Dave >============================================================================= >| -jph IMHO: The "H" means "honest!" | >| INET: anlhille@ucs.indiana.edu UUCP: iuvax!prism.decnet!anlhille | >| BITNET: anlhille@iurose.bitnet DECNET: PRISM::ANLHILLE | >============================================================================= -- =----------------Logan-Shaw---(lshaw@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu)----------------= "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not on thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and he shall direct thy paths" - Proverbs 3:5-6
lkoop@pnet01.cts.com (Lamonte Koop) (12/28/90)
billsey@agora.uucp (Bill Seymour) writes: >In article <45403@cci632.UUCP> dsg@ccird1.UUCP (David Greenberg) writes: >: >: Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed >:in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine? >: >: Dave > > Type 'Avail' at any Shell prompt. If it says you have a maximum of > 512K chip mem, you have the old Agnus. >-- Not necessarily. If the system in question has not had the modifications done to utilize the 1-meg Agnus, 'Avail' may still only show 512K CHIP, although the 1-meg beast is in fact present. I did have some code lying about for determining which Agnus was installed in the system, but it's buried in some dark directory somewhere. If interest prevails, or if someone wishes to e-mail me I can try to dig it up. LaMonte Koop Internet: lkoop@pnet01.cts.com ARPA: crash!pnet01!lkoop@nosc.mil UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd ucsd nosc}!crash!pnet01!lkoop A scientist is one who finds interest in the kinetic energy of Jell-O moving at ridiculous velocities...an engineer is one who can find a real-life application for such silliness.
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (12/28/90)
In article <45403@cci632.UUCP> dsg@ccird1.UUCP (David Greenberg) writes: > > Does any one know how to figure out which agnus chip is installed >in the 2000? Is there a program???? or do you have to open up the machine? In the A2000, it's fairly simple: just type AVAIL in CLI or shell. If you get a 1MB value in the chip row and Maximum column, then you have the ECS Agnus (1MB version). If the value is only 512K, then you have the older version. This is different on the A500, because this doesn't have 1MB memory standard and gives always the 512K value, with or without ECS. -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
dsg@cci632.UUCP (David Greenberg) (12/31/90)
After all this FAT AGNUS info I recieved, I tried the avail command, which reports 523K of chip ram....I checked sysinfo and it gave me a lot of really cool info, except for some strange reason, a LINE full of inverse Y's cut through the screen oblitering the AGNUS line!......SO...finally I opened up the machine and looked at the chip......here is what I found: Chip #8370 (no A or B found) MOS 2687 23 and on the mother board above the chip it says "FAT LADY" So, anyone want to take a stab???? which chip is it??!? Thanks, Dave
lkoop@pnet01.cts.com (Lamonte Koop) (12/31/90)
dsg@cci632.UUCP (David Greenberg) writes: > > After all this FAT AGNUS info I recieved, I tried the avail command, > which reports 523K of chip ram....I checked sysinfo and it gave me > a lot of really cool info, except for some strange reason, a LINE > full of inverse Y's cut through the screen oblitering the AGNUS > line!......SO...finally I opened up the machine and looked at the > chip......here is what I found: > > Chip #8370 > (no A or B found) > MOS > 2687 23 > >and on the mother board above the chip it says "FAT LADY" > > So, anyone want to take a stab???? which chip is it??!? You have the 512K Agnus, which has part number 8370. 8372 is the 1-meg version. LaMonte Koop Internet: lkoop@pnet01.cts.com ARPA: crash!pnet01!lkoop@nosc.mil UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd ucsd nosc}!crash!pnet01!lkoop A scientist is one who finds interest in the kinetic energy of Jell-O moving at ridiculous velocities...an engineer is one who can find a real-life application for such silliness.
bing@mcnc.org (Carter E. Bing) (03/19/91)
Greetings,
Could someone give me the scoop on the Fat Agnus chip and
how difficult it would be to install it in my Amiga 1000.
I need information concerning the advantages of using
it and the like.
Thanks for the help,
Carter Bing bing@mcnc.org
thamilton@ch3.intel.com (Tony Hamilton, 48142, pager: 250-9931) (05/31/91)
I am not on the list, so please reply in E-mail only.... A friend of mine has an Amiga 500 (had it for a year). Recently opened it up and found that there is supposedly a "Fat Agnus" in the computer. At least, that is what the circuit board says it is. He has a Supra 501 clone memory expansion (512K), and a 2meg expansion in the SCSI interface for his hard drive. According to him, he only has 512K of "chip memory", and he wants to know how to have access to one meg of chip memory. Apparently, all of the memory is "fast memory" only. Finally, I guess his reasoning is that with the "Fat Agnus", you are supposed to get one meg of "chip memory". Me personally, I don't know anything about any of this, but he seems to know what he is talking about, yet is stumped. Please, anyone who can, send whatever help you can to this address: thamilton@ch3.intel.com Thank you in advance.
thamilton@ch3.intel.com (Tony Hamilton, 48142, pager: 250-9931) (06/01/91)
Hello, it's the guy with the "Fat Agnus" problem again. Again, please reply by mail, since I am NOT on this list. My friend took his A500 apart, and now I can tell you exactly what he has. He has the 'regular' Fat Agnus which is number 8370. The board is Revision 5. Various people replied and cleared up that there are actually 'Fatter' Agnuses that are needed to get the full 1 meg of chip RAM (with his 512K expansion). One person, however, wrote and explained a procedure to get 1 meg via a switch on JP2. Well, he said you needed Revision 6 of the board, which my friend does not have. Is there yet ANY way for him to get a full 1 meg of chip RAM on his A500, or is he SOL? BTW, he did find JP2, but I suspect that it does not matter unless you have the right board? Reminder: please reply via E-mail, and thanks for all the help so far... thamilton@ch3.intel.com