seebs@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (The Laughing Prophet) (06/02/91)
(I suppose it's not important to most people, but this is my first posting since I got Ethernet attached to my amiga. Now, I wonder how long it will be before I can get the server ends of rlogin/telnet and all that...) A large number of people have been commenting about 'when 2.0 is burned in rom'. Why, oh why, would you put it in rom? I think putting KS in Ram is one of the nicest things the amiga does - it allows me to switch os's at will. Sure it takes memory - but so does Rom, just different memory. ;-) Seriously, though, what's so great about having it in ROM? I see no clear advantage, except for the ~2 seconds and ~512k of time and disk space involved, and the 2 seconds only applies during a cold boot or a really bad guru. :) Oh, and by the way: Our local C= dealer seems to have lost the newest kickstart - they lent it to someone, who never returned it, I guess. Is there any other way I can get it? Can I just copy their devs:kickstart or do I have to do something arcane? Argh! Re: Undocumented commands. Well, I keep seeing people around here told 'use CPU NOCACHE' or something like that. Well, I appear to have a command called 'cpu' in my c: directory. Where did it come from? Appears to be standard distribution. Where is it documented? Well? Does someone have docs for this? Is there a reason for which it isn't mentioned in the "System Software" documentation? (i.e., maybe it isn't so much system software as, uhm, a really simple minded game...) --SeebS-- Disclaimer: I was not of sound mind. -- Peter Seebach - The Laughing Prophet | | Anonymous Posting Here! I don't speak for St. Olaf, St. Olaf | | seebs@acc.stolaf.edu doesn't speak for me, and Marcel Marceau | | "Forgive them Father, for they speaks for no one. | | do not get the joke..."
dean@coplex.uucp (Dean Brooks) (06/03/91)
seebs@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (The Laughing Prophet) writes: >A large number of people have been commenting about 'when 2.0 is burned in >rom'. >Why, oh why, would you put it in rom? I think putting KS in Ram is one of >the nicest things the amiga does - it allows me to switch os's at will. Sure >it takes memory - but so does Rom, just different memory. ;-) Seriously, >though, what's so great about having it in ROM? I see no clear advantage, >except for the ~2 seconds and ~512k of time and disk space involved, and >the 2 seconds only applies during a cold boot or a really bad guru. :) The main issue isn;t actually *having* it in ROM, its more of a question of when will it be finished. Obviously, support for WB2.0 will still be less than 100% until C= begins shipping machines with 2.0 in ROM. When 2.0 ships in ROM for all model Amigas, hopefully everyone will throw away their 1.3 include files; there wont be any need for them. The original WorkBench (1.1,1.2,1.3) has always been the pitfall of the Amiga. When 2.0 is complete, I sincerely hope that 1.3 dies silently, never to return again. If you disagree, you obviously haven't used 2.0 much... (-8 I also think the act of placing software in ROM symbolizes to many that the software is "complete". >Re: Undocumented commands. Well, I keep seeing people around here told >'use CPU NOCACHE' or something like that. Well, I appear to have a command >called 'cpu' in my c: directory. Where did it come from? Appears to be >standard distribution. Where is it documented? Well? Does someone have >docs for this? Is there a reason for which it isn't mentioned in the >"System Software" documentation? (i.e., maybe it isn't so much system >software as, uhm, a really simple minded game...) Actually, its documented in the newer System Software manuals. I think it was added in 2.03. "CPU ?" should give you most of the information you need (about turning on/off cache'ing and burstmode). -- dean@coplex.uucp (Dean Brooks) Copper Electronics, Inc. Louisville, Kentucky